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Wow, now I know where you live! You live on that block where many people don't stop at the stop sign! Got it! Yes, you're right: Your precinct did receive calls on that stop sign - the one motorists always go through......and even though the cop who patrols YOUR neighborhood has 40 to 50 other stops signs on his post - YOURS happens to be the only one motorists don't stop at and the only one that people have called the precinct to complain about.....

You're lucky to get 2 or 3 one-man cars in your whole town - and you expect them to be exactly where a car break-in or shots fired is when it happens? There are lots of arrests daily where the cops WERE there at the right time - but that's mostly luck and sometimes good policework. But a few broken car windows and stolen GPS's with NO witnesses - what do YOU suppose the police do? How do you investigate that? Are your expectations realistic?

Besides, writing a few cars tickets for a particular stop sign is no indication that 99% of motorists using that road will know there were tickets given out at that location....so, the chances of slowing people down by giving a few tickets there every so often is pretty nil. This has been proven time and again when you see the same traffic cops sitting at the same stop signs for years and years 'getting their numbers'....

Your frustration is understandable, but your venting about it here or about cops is not (to me). Video tape the stop sign. Do it as long as you can and show as many vehicles as you can going through the sign. Make copies of the video and along with a well-written letter of complaint about motorists disregarding the sign, send it to the Commanding Officer of your precinct, your town council, town board, etc. I bet you'll have a cop assigned there within a few days of them receiving the video/letter - NOT that I think it would do much good as far as slowing people down.
 
boke said:
I am just noting what I have seen at St Joseph, Winthrop, NUMC, SNCH, Aand pretty much every other hospital in Nassau county. I rarely see the cop being driven back to his squad car by the ambulance. I guess I shouldn't trust my eyes though.
I can speak for myself. I drove them back plenty when I was on the road. I was on nights when things were a bit slower. Ofttimes a second guy does follow, but as soon as they get to the hospital they get the patient in, moved over to the hospital stretcher and go back into service as a two man unit. As of now, Nassau has excellent response times to high priority calls.

In my opinion it'll no doubt get worse over the next couple years with the precinct closings and attrition through retirements. Nassau has no plan to hire anytime soon either. And it's my SWAG/opinion that come 2015 you'll see a mass exodus of officers before the new contract. I believe to the tune of a few hundred(there'll be 600-700 eligible to retire). Maybe more. How much Nassau hires in the next few years is anyone's guess but it ain't gonna be a few hundred. So if you think it's bad now, you ain't seen nothing yet.
 
I think that is something we can all agree on. Response times will only get worse all in the name of politics. It is a shame one of the highest taxes counties in the nation and yet because of politics we cannot protect the hard working tax payers.

People are fleeing this island soon to leave all the skells. The cancer spreads it does not get smaller. it happens one neiborhood at a time. Slowly as the good people move out, and the only ones who stay behind are those that cannot move.. ie the poor. Where there is poverty there is crime.
 
The Big Ox said:
Stereotype. Unfounded. I will find it nearly impossible to take the next sentences seriously.

If it is your opinion that one can never find a cop when you need one, how is it that you knew where to look for one? Were you disappointed when your discovery thwarted the first premise of your post?

Is this because the fish disappointed you as well? You seem to be good at finding things. Maybe you should look for fish behind firehouses. You've have had luck there recently....

I'd put my money on the belief that the roads are the way they are because they are filled with angry, ornery, implacable people.

You seem to be easily perturbed. I'd hate to be the kid whose soccer ball rolls onto your lawn.

Maybe driving for a living isn't for you. Have you tried golf?
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sherm66 said:
Every village has a few idiots. There's no justifying what he did. It ain't funny to me. I know him, and worked with his wife for the better part of three years. I'm pretty sure it isn't funny to her or their kids either. It's a disgrace and sad situation, but most assuredly, not the norm(Contrary to what many around here would have you believe)
I agree 100%, it's a disgrace to his uniform, a disgrace to the good cops he works with and to his wife and children, however this J/O should have thought about his wife and kids before parking his vehicle outside that chicks house for hours on end, not thinking "anyone" would notice, And that my friend, is some FUNNY SH*T!!!
 
Think about this: As you're going about your business every day you probably see a PD somewhere near you about 8 or 9 times at the very least. You don't need them at that time so you probably didn't really notice them. All of a sudden a situation comes up where you feel; the need for a police presence NOW. You start looking....nothing. Your frustration level rises, you start looking harder...still nothing. The half dozen cops you saw before don't matter, where are they RIGHT NOW? Common occurrence, has to do with human nature- those 5 minutes seem like hours. Of course, calling it in with precise location/description of problem will probably get a response a lot quicker than driving to where you think they might be "hiding".
DO some cops "hide" occasionally (not break, meal, conferring with other Officers etc.)? Sure they do, just like folks in every other job description. Is it common? No, not from my experience. I've had guys stop where I was working just to say hi for a few minutes or to get themselves together after a tough call. So what?
 
NRATC53 said:
Think about this: As you're going about your business every day you probably see a PD somewhere near you about 8 or 9 times at the very least. You don't need them at that time so you probably didn't really notice them. All of a sudden a situation comes up where you feel; the need for a police presence NOW. You start looking....nothing. Your frustration level rises, you start looking harder...still nothing. The half dozen cops you saw before don't matter, where are they RIGHT NOW? Common occurrence, has to do with human nature- those 5 minutes seem like hours. Of course, calling it in with precise location/description of problem will probably get a response a lot quicker than driving to where you think they might be "hiding".
DO some cops "hide" occasionally (not break, meal, conferring with other Officers etc.)? Sure they do, just like folks in every other job description. Is it common? No, not from my experience. I've had guys stop where I was working just to say hi for a few minutes or to get themselves together after a tough call. So what?
I find your responses to always be a voice of reason, like the thread you were on yesterday every entity is made up of humans beings who do their best but they are not perfect.
 
Had two NCPD squad cars over here last ngiht, something going on with the neigbors, dunno what but they came over with two cars and searchlights- didn't hear any domestic argument or anything, They are out there.

Personally, the less cops I see the better. I used to live in a town in Westchester that paid these guys tro park in the "69" position in the Dunkin parking lot all night because there was no crime/nothing else for the cops to do except drive around wasting taxpayer gas money nd making people's dogs bark.

For any given cop (and don't take this the wrong way, LIF Cops), my chances of getting banged down for an expired inspection or failing to signal a lane change or some petty BS that costs me money is a lot higher than getting mugged, robbed, or breaking down in the middle of traffic, And the one time I DID break down in the middle of traffic (droipped drive shaft) even though a cop came to watch I STILL had to push the car off the road entirely by myself.

IMO less cops is better, in a perfect world we would not even need cops, and I would actually rather have them drinking coffe at the forehouse than writing me a $150 for a 5MPH "rolling stop" that's going to jack up my insurance another $1000.

Careful what you wish for on that stop sign though, the County might install one of those damn cameras, then you might find the one getting tickets is your wife.
 
cMc214 said:
I find your responses to always be a voice of reason, like the thread you were on yesterday every entity is made up of humans beings who do their best but they are not perfect.
Thanks, but according to others I'm a cop basher...
 
NRATC53 said:
Thanks, but according to others I'm a cop basher...
I have been known to do the same because I feel they power trip and have seen them do the very things they would lock you up for but ive come to the realization as of late that you cant blame an entire entity for the actions of the few you encounter or that make it on the news.
 
boke said:
One of the problems with NCPD and their response is the fact that cops drive ambulances. So when one cop drives an ambulance it puts two cop cars out of servixe until they return from the hospital to pick up the squad car left behind.
That doesn't make any sense at all. Why would a cop be driving an ambulance instead of an EMT or a paramedic?
 
Dan 0351 said:
Do you mean to tell me that cops actually take breaks during their 12-hour tours?!? That's nuts! They should drive around all tour and never meet up with another officer for anything - passing info, a cup of coffee, etc.

Supercutter, you've just uncovered deep, dark secrets way beyond the Blue Wall.....cops DO take a few breaks during their tour. They do meet up and ask how their co-worker's family is and discuss what they did on their days off and sometimes they actually talk about policework. What a waste of taxpayer money, huh?

Those guys should've sensed there was a disabled female motorist on the roadway. They should have also sensed that a presumedly able-bodied person as yourself would pass her by to drive around on the outside chance he'd find a cop not otherwise involved.

Why didn't you just help her as you called 9-1-1 for her? Wouldn't that have been a smarter thing to do instead of trying to find a cop that covers several square miles by himself?

Just thinking out loud.
AMEN!
 
NRATC53 said:
Thanks, but according to others I'm a cop basher...
I've noticed the threshold of "cop bashing" on this site tends to be a little low.

Example:

"Today I read a news story about two police officers convicted of a crime..." = COP BASHING.
 
sherm66 said:
Is this a complaint? Pointless smug observation? Nassau uses firehouses as relieving points. Often more than one car turns out of a firehouse. Officers often meet to exchange paperwork, need to get something from their car, take a leak etc.

Just out of curiosity what time of day was it?
You forgot sit and socialize for an hour or more... sorry Sherm, but many of us have seen it many many times. (and I can guarantee it was socializing, I was listening)

IMHO a police car should NEVER be "hiding" behind a firehouse, 7-11, donut shop, railroad, etc.... They should ALWAYS be visible - (I don't think you'll argue that visibility/presence is a deterrent...)

Breaks sure - but not two or three patrols at the same time/place.

(In fact the village here has taken to parking a spare patrol car on the main road...)
 
Dan 0351 said:
Do you mean to tell me that cops actually take breaks during their 12-hour tours?!? That's nuts! They should drive around all tour and never meet up with another officer for anything - passing info, a cup of coffee, etc.

Supercutter, you've just uncovered deep, dark secrets way beyond the Blue Wall.....cops DO take a few breaks during their tour. They do meet up and ask how their co-worker's family is and discuss what they did on their days off and sometimes they actually talk about policework. What a waste of taxpayer money, huh?

Those guys should've sensed there was a disabled female motorist on the roadway. They should have also sensed that a presumedly able-bodied person as yourself would pass her by to drive around on the outside chance he'd find a cop not otherwise involved.

Why didn't you just help her as you called 9-1-1 for her? Wouldn't that have been a smarter thing to do instead of trying to find a cop that covers several square miles by himself?

Just thinking out loud.
And then the flipside... I kinda agree with Dan on "why didn't you stop and help her yourself?"...
 
sherm66 said:
Every village has a few idiots. There's no justifying what he did. It ain't funny to me. I know him, and worked with his wife for the better part of three years. I'm pretty sure it isn't funny to her or their kids either. It's a disgrace and sad situation, but most assuredly, not the norm(Contrary to what many around here would have you believe)
Sherm, should he not be in jail? What he did is just plain stealing. It would be not different if he work in a store and put his hand in the cash draw when no one was looking. Should he not have to pay back all the salary he "earned" while he was at his girlfriend's house? Are you outraged that he put if for a pension that he will most likely get?
 
You can see them at Jericho firehouse which is right next to the school, my work route. Good vantage point since its a school zone and they can catch speeders before they can slow down after seeing them when coming up the curve. Usually, every summer, my part of town would see the cops watching stop signs and go after those who dont stop. Now, the thing with the ambulance bureau. I was always told that if an ambulance is needed, call the fd because a police ambulance is an extra hundred dollars in costs. That true?
 
FatWhiteMan said:
That doesn't make any sense at all. Why would a cop be driving an ambulance instead of an EMT or a paramedic?
The county AEMT will drive too the call. The cop drives from the scene to the hospital. I guess in someones mind it makes sense and supposidly saves them money. Aparently the 13/hr to pay an emt is just too much for the Nassau County Budget. They would rather take a cop off the street, and let someone who isn't used to driving a vehicle the size of an ambulance drive it.
 
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