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Not in Hawaii you don't, no guns for you.


HONOLULU (HawaiiNewsNow) -
The city of Honolulu will destroy $500,000 worth of old police guns instead of selling them to other law enforcement agencies or Honolulu police officers.
HPD has replaced more than 2,300 of its old handguns with new lighter, cheaper guns. Many police officers said those old guns still have value and should not be thrown away but sold or donated to be re-used instead.
Since 1990, Honolulu police officers have used Smith & Wesson 9 millimeter handguns and the city has replaced them with lighter and easier-to-use Glock 17s that cost about half as much as the Smith & Wessons.
Hawaii News Now has learned that the city plans to destroy about 2,300 of the old Smith & Wessons in the next few weeks, including 200 of them that are brand new and still in their boxes.
"I don't understand the thinking of the administration as to getting rid of these guns when we could benefit from the recycling, as long as there are safeguards," said Honolulu City Council Budget Chair Ann Kobayashi.
In a statement, HPD said, "Mayor Caldwell and the Honolulu Police Department agreed that they would not allow the guns to be sold to the general public and end up on the streets of Honolulu. The same goes for selling individual gun parts that could have been used to assemble a gun."
Police discussed a number of options with city lawyers and budget officials, including selling the old guns with no restrictions on their future use which would have brought in $250 each or about $575,000.
Another option was selling them with the restriction that they could only be purchased by law enforcement, a move that would have generated $150 for each firearm or about $345,000.
Selling the guns for parts would have garnered about $100 for each gun, bringing the city $230,000.

more here. http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/29721656/exclusive-hpd-will-destroy-2300-old-guns-worth-500k
 

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My brother moved to Maui 5 years ago. We visit every year and a we were seriously considering buying a house/ condo to rent to offset costs and move there in a couple of years once retired. Well about 3 years ago we drove by a shooting range so we drove in to check it out and talk to some of the guys. It was very enlightening in a horrible way. Buying was out of the question right then and there. Gun laws sounds like cuomo NY west. We will stick to visitation.
 

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This SHOULD be considered incompetent Goverment services or wantant waste of Goverment resources ! Not very smart !
 

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My brother moved to Maui 5 years ago. We visit every year and a we were seriously considering buying a house/ condo to rent to offset costs and move there in a couple of years once retired. Well about 3 years ago we drove by a shooting range so we drove in to check it out and talk to some of the guys. It was very enlightening in a horrible way. Buying was out of the question right then and there. Gun laws sounds like cuomo NY west. We will stick to visitation.
Very expensive living costs along with even worse gun laws than here. Whats not to like?

They are one of the states that do not tax my pension. They along with Florida, Alaska, Illinois, South Dakota and Washington were never even in the running when it came to the list of states we were thinking about. Wyoming was higher on the list than them.
 

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Very expensive living costs along with even worse gun laws than here. Whats not to like?

They are one of the states that do not tax my pension. They along with Florida, Alaska, Illinois, South Dakota and Washington were never even in the running when it came to the list of states we were thinking about. Wyoming was higher on the list than them.
Actually, comparing costs of living on LI and Maui aren't that much different. Comparing Maui to Arkansas yes but NY prices are very high here. I brother sold his house in Nesconset for about 550k 6 years ago and bout a comparable house for about 100k less in a great neighborhood, ocean view out the front and a mountain view out the back. His taxes were about 14k here and in Maui his annual taxes are........$800 a year!
Food prices are a bit higher than stores here and the biggest difference I found was gasoline. It's about 50 cents more a gallon there but it's a small island and one doesn't drive as much. If it wasn't for the gun issues we'd have a place there already.
 

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Actually, comparing costs of living on LI and Maui aren't that much different. Comparing Maui to Arkansas yes but NY prices are very high here. I brother sold his house in Nesconset for about 550k 6 years ago and bout a comparable house for about 100k less in a great neighborhood, ocean view out the front and a mountain view out the back. His taxes were about 14k here and in Maui his annual taxes are........$800 a year!
Food prices are a bit higher than stores here and the biggest difference I found was gasoline. It's about 50 cents more a gallon there but it's a small island and one doesn't drive as much. If it wasn't for the gun issues we'd have a place there already.
Food prices are an issue. As is most other stuff that has to be shipped in, at least that's what we thought. But hey, it's halfway between us and China.
 

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Might wanna brush up on your history.... unless i'm missing something?
Same thing happened when I quoted said quote....

still one of the best motivational speeches ever.

nitroscope8....please go watch animal house. one of the best comedies out there.
 
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