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From the Salt lake Tribune

It's not surprising for a state that just adopted the nation's first official state firearm. But a national group that opposes gun violence just gave Utah gun laws the lowest-possible score on its annual scorecard - which made pro-gun lawmakers cheer, but appalled local anti-violence groups.

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/politics/51760186-90/anti-bill-brady-gun.html.csp
 

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From the Salt lake Tribune

It's not surprising for a state that just adopted the nation's first official state firearm. But a national group that opposes gun violence just gave Utah gun laws the lowest-possible score on its annual scorecard - which made pro-gun lawmakers cheer, but appalled local anti-violence groups.

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/politics/51760186-90/anti-bill-brady-gun.html.csp
 

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I don't see what the anti-violence groups are complaining about. Utah is a "must inform" state that doesn't allow open carry.
 

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I don't see what the anti-violence groups are complaining about. Utah is a "must inform" state that doesn't allow open carry.
 

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Hmm, for 2008 we find the following

Murders
rate
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CA 5.8 18
NY 4.3 27
UT 1.5 49

So, in UT you have about 1/3 the chance of being killed than in NY, and about 1/4 of the chance in California. How dare they be so safe despite these laws. 8)
 

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Hmm, for 2008 we find the following

Murders
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CA 5.8 18
NY 4.3 27
UT 1.5 49

So, in UT you have about 1/3 the chance of being killed than in NY, and about 1/4 of the chance in California. How dare they be so safe despite these laws. 8)
 

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I'll bet their crime rate is MUCH lower than ohhh...  Chicago, DC, CA, NJ......    Hell, I'll guess that Utah, Alaska, and Arizona COMBINED have less crime than any one of those...
 

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I'll bet their crime rate is MUCH lower than ohhh...  Chicago, DC, CA, NJ......    Hell, I'll guess that Utah, Alaska, and Arizona COMBINED have less crime than any one of those...
 

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Lemming said:
Hmm, for 2008 we find the following

Murders
rate
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CA 5.8 18
NY 4.3 27
UT 1.5 49

So, in UT you have about 1/3 the chance of being killed than in NY, and about 1/4 of the chance in California. How dare they be so safe despite these laws. 8)
heh, you posted while I was typing and proved my point! LOL!
 

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Lemming said:
Hmm, for 2008 we find the following

Murders
rate
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CA 5.8 18
NY 4.3 27
UT 1.5 49

So, in UT you have about 1/3 the chance of being killed than in NY, and about 1/4 of the chance in California. How dare they be so safe despite these laws. 8)
heh, you posted while I was typing and proved my point! LOL!
 

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Parashooter said:
heh, you posted while I was typing and proved my point! LOL!
It's the obvious question, isn't it?

Overall violent crime rank (1 is worst) for 2008

DC 1
CA 15
NY 25
UT 46

So, whatever UT is doing, can we maybe bottle it? Maybe spread around some books by Card, Tayler and Correia?
 

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Parashooter said:
heh, you posted while I was typing and proved my point! LOL!
It's the obvious question, isn't it?

Overall violent crime rank (1 is worst) for 2008

DC 1
CA 15
NY 25
UT 46

So, whatever UT is doing, can we maybe bottle it? Maybe spread around some books by Card, Tayler and Correia?
 
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