Utah scolded by national gun-violence group

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PandM

Discussion Starter · May 7, 2011

From the Salt lake Tribune

It's not surprising for a state that just adopted the nation's first official state firearm. But a national group that opposes gun violence just gave Utah gun laws the lowest-possible score on its annual scorecard - which made pro-gun lawmakers cheer, but appalled local anti-violence groups.

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/politics/51760186-90/anti-bill-brady-gun.html.csp

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PandM

Discussion Starter · #2 · May 7, 2011

From the Salt lake Tribune

It's not surprising for a state that just adopted the nation's first official state firearm. But a national group that opposes gun violence just gave Utah gun laws the lowest-possible score on its annual scorecard - which made pro-gun lawmakers cheer, but appalled local anti-violence groups.

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/politics/51760186-90/anti-bill-brady-gun.html.csp

SydneyH

· #3 · May 7, 2011

I don't see what the anti-violence groups are complaining about. Utah is a "must inform" state that doesn't allow open carry.

SydneyH

· #4 · May 7, 2011

I don't see what the anti-violence groups are complaining about. Utah is a "must inform" state that doesn't allow open carry.

Mr. Shotgun

· #5 · May 7, 2011

If they dont like it, let them leave....

Mr. Shotgun

· #6 · May 7, 2011

If they dont like it, let them leave....

Lemming

· #7 · May 7, 2011

Hmm, for 2008 we find the following

Murders
rate
100k rank
CA 5.8 18
NY 4.3 27
UT 1.5 49

So, in UT you have about 1/3 the chance of being killed than in NY, and about 1/4 of the chance in California. How dare they be so safe despite these laws. 8)

Lemming

· #8 · May 7, 2011

Hmm, for 2008 we find the following

Murders
rate
100k rank
CA 5.8 18
NY 4.3 27
UT 1.5 49

So, in UT you have about 1/3 the chance of being killed than in NY, and about 1/4 of the chance in California. How dare they be so safe despite these laws. 8)

Parashooter

· #9 · May 7, 2011

I'll bet their crime rate is MUCH lower than ohhh... Chicago, DC, CA, NJ...... Hell, I'll guess that Utah, Alaska, and Arizona COMBINED have less crime than any one of those...

Parashooter

· #10 · May 7, 2011

I'll bet their crime rate is MUCH lower than ohhh... Chicago, DC, CA, NJ...... Hell, I'll guess that Utah, Alaska, and Arizona COMBINED have less crime than any one of those...

Parashooter

· #11 · May 7, 2011

Lemming said:
Hmm, for 2008 we find the following

Murders
rate
100k rank
CA 5.8 18
NY 4.3 27
UT 1.5 49

So, in UT you have about 1/3 the chance of being killed than in NY, and about 1/4 of the chance in California. How dare they be so safe despite these laws. 8)

heh, you posted while I was typing and proved my point! LOL!

Parashooter

· #12 · May 7, 2011

Lemming said:
Hmm, for 2008 we find the following

Murders
rate
100k rank
CA 5.8 18
NY 4.3 27
UT 1.5 49

So, in UT you have about 1/3 the chance of being killed than in NY, and about 1/4 of the chance in California. How dare they be so safe despite these laws. 8)

heh, you posted while I was typing and proved my point! LOL!

Lemming

· #13 · May 7, 2011

Parashooter said:
I'll bet their crime rate is MUCH lower than ohhh... Chicago, DC, CA, NJ...... Hell, I'll guess that Utah, Alaska, and Arizona COMBINED have less crime than any one of those...

Wow, crime is. . . odd in Alaska

scroll to the bottom of: http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/akcrime.htm

Lemming

· #14 · May 7, 2011

Parashooter said:
I'll bet their crime rate is MUCH lower than ohhh... Chicago, DC, CA, NJ...... Hell, I'll guess that Utah, Alaska, and Arizona COMBINED have less crime than any one of those...

Wow, crime is. . . odd in Alaska

scroll to the bottom of: http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/akcrime.htm

Lemming

· #15 · May 7, 2011

Parashooter said:
heh, you posted while I was typing and proved my point! LOL!

It's the obvious question, isn't it?

Overall violent crime rank (1 is worst) for 2008

DC 1
CA 15
NY 25
UT 46

So, whatever UT is doing, can we maybe bottle it? Maybe spread around some books by Card, Tayler and Correia?

Lemming

· #16 · May 7, 2011

Parashooter said:
heh, you posted while I was typing and proved my point! LOL!

It's the obvious question, isn't it?

Overall violent crime rank (1 is worst) for 2008

DC 1
CA 15
NY 25
UT 46

So, whatever UT is doing, can we maybe bottle it? Maybe spread around some books by Card, Tayler and Correia?

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