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To those of you interested in Utah vs. Florida

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I know there was bit of discussion on it during the class today, so I wanted to just get some of the information out there.

Both are very similar, however Florida gives you Kansas and New Mexico. Utah gives you Minnesota.

In addition, you cannot travel to Florida with a Utah permit, as Florida does not accept non-resident permits. (This is the main reason I need Florida over Utah, its more advantageous to me to be able to carry in Florida)

Colorado, South Carolina (FL only), Michigan, and New Hampshire operate the same way and will not accept non-resident permits, so you are SOL with either)

Handgunlaw.us links

* Florida
* Utah

Utah costs $65 + training, and is good for 5 years ($10 renewal iirc).
Florida costs $117 + training and is good for 7 years($65 renewal iirc).

Also - it is also worth note that with either permit, you are still subject to the Gun Free Schools Act (1990). This means when carrying with a non-resident permit of any state, except the one that issued you the permit, you cannot travel within 1000 feet of a school, which makes it damn near impossible to travel in almost any major city it seems.

Obviously laws are subject to change (though handgunlaw.us is pretty good at keeping up to date), I am not a lawyer, nor am I a LEO of any kind. This information and advice is worth exactly what you paid for it.

Cheers everyone.
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I know there was bit of discussion on it during the class today, so I wanted to just get some of the information out there.

Both are very similar, however Florida gives you Kansas and New Mexico. Utah gives you Minnesota.

In addition, you cannot travel to Florida with a Utah permit, as Florida does not accept non-resident permits. (This is the main reason I need Florida over Utah, its more advantageous to me to be able to carry in Florida)

Colorado, South Carolina (FL only), Michigan, and New Hampshire operate the same way and will not accept non-resident permits, so you are SOL with either)

Handgunlaw.us links

* Florida
* Utah

Utah costs $65 + training, and is good for 5 years ($10 renewal iirc).
Florida costs $117 + training and is good for 7 years($65 renewal iirc).

Also - it is also worth note that with either permit, you are still subject to the Gun Free Schools Act (1990). This means when carrying with a non-resident permit of any state, except the one that issued you the permit, you cannot travel within 1000 feet of a school, which makes it damn near impossible to travel in almost any major city it seems.

Obviously laws are subject to change (though handgunlaw.us is pretty good at keeping up to date), I am not a lawyer, nor am I a LEO of any kind. This information and advice is worth exactly what you paid for it.

Cheers everyone.
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From what I understand, most states do not grant reciprocity to a non-res license.

If want to carry out of state...it nay be in your best interest to get a non-res for that particular state.
From what I understand, most states do not grant reciprocity to a non-res license.

If want to carry out of state...it nay be in your best interest to get a non-res for that particular state.
Nice post...great class today

Gotta order my FL papers tonight.
Nice post...great class today

Gotta order my FL papers tonight.
CJ said:
From what I understand, most states do not grant reciprocity to a non-res license.
Not really true.

Only New Hampshire, Michigan, South Carolina, Colorado, Maine, and Florida don't recognize non-res licenses.
CJ said:
From what I understand, most states do not grant reciprocity to a non-res license.
Not really true.

Only New Hampshire, Michigan, South Carolina, Colorado, Maine, and Florida don't recognize non-res licenses.
Florida renewal for non resident is $107 every 7 years.
Utah is now $15 for non resident every 5 years renewal.
Florida renewal for non resident is $107 every 7 years.
Utah is now $15 for non resident every 5 years renewal.
Great Utah Permit class today!!  Good work Chris!
Great Utah Permit class today!!  Good work Chris!
deathsythe said:
Not really true.

Only New Hampshire, Michigan, South Carolina, Colorado, Maine, and Florida don't recognize non-res licenses.
You are correct sir!
deathsythe said:
Not really true.

Only New Hampshire, Michigan, South Carolina, Colorado, Maine, and Florida don't recognize non-res licenses.
You are correct sir!
CJ said:
From what I understand, most states do not grant reciprocity to a non-res license.

If want to carry out of state...it nay be in your best interest to get a non-res for that particular state.
to clarify for those who may be scratching their heads over this statement.... Several states do not accept Non-resident LICENSES, issued by OTHER states... Florida issues it's own Non-resident license to NYers... but will not accept a NYer carrying on a PA/UT/etc. non-resident license.
CJ said:
From what I understand, most states do not grant reciprocity to a non-res license.

If want to carry out of state...it nay be in your best interest to get a non-res for that particular state.
to clarify for those who may be scratching their heads over this statement.... Several states do not accept Non-resident LICENSES, issued by OTHER states... Florida issues it's own Non-resident license to NYers... but will not accept a NYer carrying on a PA/UT/etc. non-resident license.
deathsythe said:
Not really true.

Only New Hampshire, Michigan, South Carolina, Colorado, Maine, and Florida don't recognize non-res licenses.
For the purposes of this conversation, when I say that a state will not recognize a non-res license, I mean that they will not recognize a non-res issued by a state OTHER than that state.

CA, CT, HI, IL, MD, MA, NJ, NY, OR, RI, and WI do NOT accept any license issued by another state. So, add those to NH, MI, SC, CO, ME, and FL that don't recognize non-res licenses....we now have 17 states (make it 16 since NY is one of them) that I can find that will not allow me to carry on a non-res. I'd be willing to bet that there is some gray areas in other states with a non-res license issued by another state.
Just be careful and do you homework before you carry as a NY-er on a PA non-resident in TN is all I'm getting at. If I am wrong, please school me, I am all ears.

http://www.handgunlaw.us/documents/USReciprocity.pdf
deathsythe said:
Not really true.

Only New Hampshire, Michigan, South Carolina, Colorado, Maine, and Florida don't recognize non-res licenses.
For the purposes of this conversation, when I say that a state will not recognize a non-res license, I mean that they will not recognize a non-res issued by a state OTHER than that state.

CA, CT, HI, IL, MD, MA, NJ, NY, OR, RI, and WI do NOT accept any license issued by another state. So, add those to NH, MI, SC, CO, ME, and FL that don't recognize non-res licenses....we now have 17 states (make it 16 since NY is one of them) that I can find that will not allow me to carry on a non-res. I'd be willing to bet that there is some gray areas in other states with a non-res license issued by another state.
Just be careful and do you homework before you carry as a NY-er on a PA non-resident in TN is all I'm getting at. If I am wrong, please school me, I am all ears.

http://www.handgunlaw.us/documents/USReciprocity.pdf
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