[notphilivey]

NY State Police: Zero arrests for violations of new carry law

It’s been five months since New York’s ironically named Concealed Carry Improvement Act took effect, and according to the New York State Police they have received not a single complaint no...

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[notphilivey]

Maybe they are adopting a “don’t ask don’t tell approach? But if you happened to get legally ID d in a place you are not supposed to be, it comes up CC holder on police scan. (I am told by an FBI source/friend) Wondering if license plate scanners also will ID car registrant automatically as a CC holder? Those are always in the on position in any cop cars that passes you or is behind you. Not sure on that?

 

[Tunaguy]

You're saying your ID i.e. your divers license, indicates that you are a CC holder?

 

[notphilivey]

No. When they run your license in the computer it dings you as a CC holder.

 

[Tunaguy]

No. When they run your license in the computer it dings you as a CC holder.

So can someone at DMV tell if you are a CC holder?

 

[notphilivey]

Probably. But they would have no reason to look I suppose.

 

[boosti]

Their was a story about a Maryland cop harassing a family from Florida on a traffic stop. He ran the plate and got the information back on the driver that he was issued a Concealed Carry Permit from Florida. Since the Safe Act, Police have better access through dispatch and the MDT in the Police vehicle. SCPD dispatch may advise responding officers to calls to service about a license pistol holder at the location.

 

[1911user]

Concealed is Concealed. Nothing to see here, keep moving.

 

[Charlie-NY]

It's just too bad that the Police don't have a way of knowing when a violent felon, who is the subject of a traffic stop, may be likely to be carrying a concealed firearm. Maybe the dems could work on that, and really enhance public safety.

 

[stalker42]

It's just too bad that the Police don't have a way of knowing when a violent felon, who is the subject of a traffic stop, may be likely to be carrying a concealed firearm. Maybe the dems could work on that, and really enhance public safety.

If only there were a way to keep the people that are truly a danger to society isolated so they couldn't pose as much of a threat. It would have to be used judiciously, and only for those who truly deserve it though.

 

[Charlie-NY]

If only there were a way to keep the people that are truly a danger to society isolated so they couldn't pose as much of a threat. It would have to be used judiciously, and only for those who truly deserve it though.

You mean like place them all on a deserted island surrounded by alligators and piranhas?

 

[stalker42]

You mean like place them all on a deserted island surrounded by alligators and piranhas?

But then we'd ostensibly have to feed the reptiles and fish. I'm okay with locking them behind a door until such time they can be rehabilitated or they learn there are repercussions to actions.

 

[Sureshot]

But then we'd ostensibly have to feed the reptiles and fish. I'm okay with locking them behind a door until such time they can be rehabilitated or they learn there are repercussions to actions.

Great idea but what would we call this place??

 

[stalker42]

Great idea but what would we call this place??

"Go away and stop bothering me"?

 

[Charlie-NY]

Great idea but what would we call this place??

Bad boy island, of course. LMAO

 

[stalker42]

Bad boy island, of course. LMAO

It is the 21st century, there could be bad girls.

 

[Peconic Paladin]

Maybe they are adopting a “don’t ask don’t tell approach? But if you happened to get legally ID d in a place you are not supposed to be, it comes up CC holder on police scan. (I am told by an FBI source/friend) Wondering if license plate scanners also will ID car registrant automatically as a CC holder? Those are always in the on position in any cop cars that passes you or is behind you. Not sure on that?

I'm not surprised by this as there are many reasons that contribute to us seeing no arrests as of yet:

--The law is very new
--The vast majority of people do not carry a weapon
--The vast majority of pistol license holders do not carry a weapon
--A sizeable, but unknown percentage of those those that do are not carrying in a sensitive place.
--Of the minuscule number that are, they are doing so concealed and therefore extremely unlikely to be detected. (As an aside, in NYS, no, pistol licenses are not automatically tied to other databases.)
--If, under the very, very, very remote circumstance that a person is somehow found to be carrying in the sensitive place, the idea that the police officer will know about this law and make an arrest over it, is even more unlikely.

 

[mikepaggs]

So I guess the person who detained the knife wielding perp upstate in Applebys was not charged?

 

[RSL]

Not charged yet- hopefully he will not be charged at all- prosecutors can charge at any time prior to the expiration of the statute of limitations. I would hope that common sense will prevail.

Also remember that prosecutors (District Attorneys) are locally elected officials so what happens in one jurisdictions is not determinative of what happens in another. This is why it is so important for the CCIA to be struck down since the current law makes felons out individuals who were previously lawful.

Although not public I wonder if the licensing agency revoked his CCW?

 

[notphilivey]

I lived in Utica back in 1995. It is an extremely pro 2A town. Most of the ADAs were packing even then. No way this guy gets anything except a medal.