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Just got back from Kings Park Bluff. My wife's nephew is 5 years old and we figured we'd take him for his first fishing venture. I didn't want to take him on a boat yet and just wanted to see if he had the patience for it. I grew up in the Commack/KP area and spent many a day catching snappers down at the bluff. It been years since I had fished there though but I remember catching many quite large snapper, especially in Aug, Sept.
When the waters moving it was rarely hard to collect a bunch pretty quickly.

I brought the usual arsenal, small spinning outfits, snapper corks, spearing and artificial snapper zappers and sidewinders. Started out with The spearing as he's to young to cast yet. We caught the outgoing and there were a couple others fishing with no luck. One kid said its been a terrible summer for snaps.
Well I rigged up and not a touch for a while then got the tails bitten off a couple spearing. I was able to retrieve and see the smallest snapper (2.5-3.5") following the spearing. Switched to the zappers and they also were followed by these minuscule blues. They looked like they just hatched out 2-3 weeks ago. I never such small fish this late in the season. Anyone seeing the same?
I haven't been snapper fishing in years and want to take him again. South shore any better, like the dock at Captree, with some fish actually large enough to get a snapper hook in its mouth? Or are they small all over? Thanks.
 

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My wife and I love barbecued snappers, and I usually cast and troll up a ten fish limit with ease from my kayak. Not this year. I thought last year was pretty poor and this year in the Matzahpizza area is way worse. Have only had one day in fifteen or so where I actually caught ten and most days am lucky to catch three or four. And similarly to you, I have started catching the tiniest snappers the past two weeks, a;lmost two small to even liveline with any hope of catching a keeper fluke as even the 13" shorts can swallow these snappers whole. Once the water cools by early October, they will all be gone. I have all but given up any thoughts of freezing any for over the winter.

There are thousands of peanut bunker, spearing and other baitfish swimming about nearly unmolested in the backbay area where I yak. At first I thought maybe the snappers simply preferred real fish instead of my metal offerings. I wish.
 

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The snapper are insane here out east. Fishing off small bridges in canals on the back roads, as soon as your bait hits the water, you get a bite. Start at the beginning of the incoming tide and fish all through it using Bunker as bait, and bring a big bucket.
 

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wish they were here. I think we are still paying the price of Sandy in Nassau. Don't need that big bucket though, legal limit is ten.
 

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My wife and I love barbecued snappers, and I usually cast and troll up a ten fish limit with ease from my kayak. Not this year. I thought last year was pretty poor and this year in the Matzahpizza area is way worse. Have only had one day in fifteen or so where I actually caught ten and most days am lucky to catch three or four. And similarly to you, I have started catching the tiniest snappers the past two weeks, a;lmost two small to even liveline with any hope of catching a keeper fluke as even the 13" shorts can swallow these snappers whole. Once the water cools by early October, they will all be gone. I have all but given up any thoughts of freezing any for over the winter.

There are thousands of peanut bunker, spearing and other baitfish swimming about nearly unmolested in the backbay area where I yak. At first I thought maybe the snappers simply preferred real fish instead of my metal offerings. I wish.
Actually snagged a few live spearing fishing the sidewinders this morning, even snapped a small herring. There were clouds of bait in the water and I was telling the kid where's there's bait there's predators, well, I was wrong! Nada, just those little Pukes that could only snip the tail off a small spearing.
I get the fisherman magazine delivered every week but took it for granted that I could go back to my old haunt and slay them, I should have read it. After I posted I read it it said snapper were very slow at the bluff but they're catching huge ones( almost bay blue) sized ones at Captree. Maybe next week.
 

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I saw a bunch tonight chasing spearing off the docks in Port Jeff. I also saw a group of 6 large (10" - 12") fish right next to the dock. I couldn't tell if they were big snappers or maybe bunker? Would bunker be schooled in 6 next to a dock?
 

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I have snapper going nuts off my dock in lindenhurst, incoming tide and hours after high tide on its way out. They are defiantly small this year but I was watching them hit hard as I sat watching the sunset from the dock.
 
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I saw a bunch tonight chasing spearing off the docks in Port Jeff. I also saw a group of 6 large (10" - 12") fish right next to the dock. I couldn't tell if they were big snappers or maybe bunker? Would bunker be schooled in 6 next to a dock?
They could be near the dock, I've seen it before. Bunker usually swim slow and lazily, snappers and blues are fast movers. If the bunker is being pushed by blues/bass then they'll be moving quick but you seen a bunch flipping out of the water just trying to survive. Bunker schools are often big pods of fish though unless the 6 go separated from the main body. But don't listen to me, I can't even catch a lousy snapper!
 

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They could be near the dock, I've seen it before. Bunker usually swim slow and lazily, snappers and blues are fast movers. If the bunker is being pushed by blues/bass then they'll be moving quick but you seen a bunch flipping out of the water just trying to survive. Bunker schools are often big pods of fish though unless the 6 go separated from the main body. But don't listen to me, I can't even catch a lousy snapper!
OK, may have been Bunker. I lived on a canal and had a Grady in the water for many years. I've seen 1000's in schools, snagged them for bait, seen them scrambling away from Blues/Stripers 100's of times from my boat and the surf, and even seen them in the talons of Osprey numerous times - just never saw a small group of them hanging around a dock, slowly swimming away then slowly returning, over and over.
 
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I saw a bunch tonight chasing spearing off the docks in Port Jeff. I also saw a group of 6 large (10" - 12") fish right next to the dock. I couldn't tell if they were big snappers or maybe bunker? Would bunker be schooled in 6 next to a dock?
Could be pilot fish which are awesome to catch while snapper fishing. If they had black stripes on the back, they were pilots. Usually in small schools well under a dozen. So much fun to catch on light light tackle.
 

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Could be pilot fish which are awesome to catch while snapper fishing. If they had black stripes on the back, they were pilots. Usually in small schools well under a dozen. So much fun to catch on light light tackle.
No stripes, just greenish tops with a few darker spots.
 
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