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South Dakota Lawmakers Propose Mandating Gun Ownership -- to Make Point About Health Law

01 Feb. 2011

A group of South Dakota lawmakers has introduced a bill that would require almost everyone in their state to buy a gun once they turn 21.
Turns out it's not a serious attempt. Rather, the lawmakers are trying to make a point about the new health care law -- that an individual mandate is unconstitutional, whether it requires everyone to buy health insurance or, in South Dakota's case, a firearm.

Read more: <http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/02/01/sd-lawmakers-propose-mandating-gun-ownership-make-point-health-law/#ixzz1DKjuYLY4>

<http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/02/01/sd-lawmakers-propose-mandating-gun-ownership-make-point-health-law/>
 

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South Dakota Lawmakers Propose Mandating Gun Ownership -- to Make Point About Health Law

01 Feb. 2011

A group of South Dakota lawmakers has introduced a bill that would require almost everyone in their state to buy a gun once they turn 21.
Turns out it's not a serious attempt. Rather, the lawmakers are trying to make a point about the new health care law -- that an individual mandate is unconstitutional, whether it requires everyone to buy health insurance or, in South Dakota's case, a firearm.

Read more: <http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/02/01/sd-lawmakers-propose-mandating-gun-ownership-make-point-health-law/#ixzz1DKjuYLY4>

<http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/02/01/sd-lawmakers-propose-mandating-gun-ownership-make-point-health-law/>
 

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Hrm... And while researching something else, I just found this... From 17 Jan. 2007

"Last month, Greenleaf, Idaho, adopted Ordinance 208, calling for its citizens to own guns and keep them ready in their homes in case of emergency. It’s not a response to high crime rates. As The Associated Press reported, “Greenleaf doesn’t really have crime &#8230; the most violent offense reported in the past two years was a fist fight.” Rather, it’s a statement about preparedness in the event of an emergency, and an effort to promote a culture of self-reliance."

Strange that the site is "Gun Guys" but reads as an anti rant page.
<http://www.gunguys.com/?p=1828>

In this article they respond that Kennesaws law didn't affect crime, but fudge a bit by giving raw numbers of crimes, NOT taking into account their growing population (checking and it looks like they quintupled their pop. by 2005)

"Prior to enactment of the law, Kennesaw had a population of just 5,242 but a crime rate significantly higher (4,332 per 100,000) than the national average (3,899 per 100,000). The latest statistics available - for the year 2005 - show the rate at 2,027 per 100,000. Meanwhile, the population has skyrocketed to 28,189" (-WND)
 

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Hrm... And while researching something else, I just found this... From 17 Jan. 2007

"Last month, Greenleaf, Idaho, adopted Ordinance 208, calling for its citizens to own guns and keep them ready in their homes in case of emergency. It’s not a response to high crime rates. As The Associated Press reported, “Greenleaf doesn’t really have crime &#8230; the most violent offense reported in the past two years was a fist fight.” Rather, it’s a statement about preparedness in the event of an emergency, and an effort to promote a culture of self-reliance."

Strange that the site is "Gun Guys" but reads as an anti rant page.
<http://www.gunguys.com/?p=1828>

In this article they respond that Kennesaws law didn't affect crime, but fudge a bit by giving raw numbers of crimes, NOT taking into account their growing population (checking and it looks like they quintupled their pop. by 2005)

"Prior to enactment of the law, Kennesaw had a population of just 5,242 but a crime rate significantly higher (4,332 per 100,000) than the national average (3,899 per 100,000). The latest statistics available - for the year 2005 - show the rate at 2,027 per 100,000. Meanwhile, the population has skyrocketed to 28,189" (-WND)
 

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I have heard from a reliable source that there is a township in Georgia where the citizens are incentivized to own handguns. Needless to say this township has a violent crime rate of next to zero. If anyone can confirm this before I get the supporting info pls PM me.

If I have been misinformed however, I would certainly like to hear some perspectives on such an incentive program as in my mind it makes perfect sense that the result would be an extremely low violent crime rate.
 

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I have heard from a reliable source that there is a township in Georgia where the citizens are incentivized to own handguns. Needless to say this township has a violent crime rate of next to zero. If anyone can confirm this before I get the supporting info pls PM me.

If I have been misinformed however, I would certainly like to hear some perspectives on such an incentive program as in my mind it makes perfect sense that the result would be an extremely low violent crime rate.
 

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Kennesaw, Georgia
 

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It's low, but certainly not next to zero. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kennesaw,_Georgia#Gun_law

Median household income is around $65k. Crime rate is probably pretty typical for other small population affluent cities. It's nice to think it's due to the guns, but it'd be hard to prove.

http://www.cityrating.com/citycrime.asp?city=Kennesaw&state=GA
http://www.cityrating.com/citycrime.asp?city=Garden+City+Village&state=NY

On the other hand, it does demonstrate that everyone having a gun does NOT cause additional crime or accidents.
 

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It's low, but certainly not next to zero. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kennesaw,_Georgia#Gun_law

Median household income is around $65k. Crime rate is probably pretty typical for other small population affluent cities. It's nice to think it's due to the guns, but it'd be hard to prove.

http://www.cityrating.com/citycrime.asp?city=Kennesaw&state=GA
http://www.cityrating.com/citycrime.asp?city=Garden+City+Village&state=NY

On the other hand, it does demonstrate that everyone having a gun does NOT cause additional crime or accidents.
 
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