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SCPD Pistol Bureau Lawsuit

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I read the County’s rebuttle, and it seems fairly strong, but also dances around the threat of arrest during training and disqualifies some key points with technicalities.

Mr. Melloni’s site with Legal info / Docs

I thought I should help out and put in my own “two cents”.

So I just did. ( For a second time )

And now also sharing with You.

You decide on your own.

GoFundMe for the Lawsuit

Thanks for reading.
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dont they have people already? Dose this indicate they might not have standing in that case? I would sign up but i dont fit the criteria as i already got my carry
I would suspect they're looking for more plaintiffs, to make it harder for NYS to pull standing tricks and you would qualify, under requirement #3.
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As Peconic Paladin and RSL point out, if the rumor is true, then the person arrested is going to be a very wealthy person, as a result of the civil lawsuit.
Gary
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“there is another law somewhere else that makes it illegal, so the state needs to clarify that, we are confused and will be enforcing the more-strict interpretation.”

That is about the most ridiculous and amazingly ignorant thing they or anyone else could have said, about conflicting statutes. It begs for a law suit, which they can't win. The courts always lean toward the less restrictive interpretation, when and if there are conflicting statutes and SCPD should be fully aware of that. In this case, there are no conflicts, to my knowledge. The new section 3a is crystal clear, on that training point. Any decent plaintiff's attorney could build a career out of SCPD or anyone else trying to make that the operational standard.
Gary
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We keep hearing that "someone says someone was arrested, for following section 3a" but I've yet to have any confirmation, in the form of a person's name, to verify that. Also, I really don't think that SCPD has senior staff that stupid, to authorize such a thing, knowing that it violates a specific NYS Penal Code exemption and will subject them, personally and organizationally, to monetary damage awards under 42 USC §1983.

For those not familiar with that statute, it reads as follows:
42 u.s.c. §1983
Every person who, under color of any statute, ordinance, regulation, custom, or usage, of any State or Territory or the District of Columbia, subjects, or causes to be subjected, any citizen of the United States or other person within the jurisdiction thereof to the deprivation of any rights, privileges, or immunities secured by the Constitution and laws, shall be liable to the party injured in an action at law, suit in equity, or other proper proceeding for redress, except that in any action brought against a judicial officer for an act or omission taken in such officer’s judicial capacity, injunctive relief shall not be granted unless a declaratory decree was violated or declaratory relief was unavailable. For the purposes of this section, any Act of Congress applicable exclusively to the District of Columbia shall be considered to be a statute of the District of Columbia.

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I got it from law enforcement leadership, but seemed dubious
Yes but is it fact or just another "better get in line, with our way of thinking or else..." threat, to get the masses doing what SCPD wants, rather than what the law stipulates? My suspicion level is high, on this one.
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This might be the answer, to all of our questions, about who got arrested. The state police says "no one."
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Did someone post the docket number for this case? I'm at work and didn't see it.
What case? We were considering/evaluating the validity of what a SCPD official claimed was an arrest, for violating CCIA's restricted and sensitive places list. State police claim no such arrests, per notphilivey's posted hot link, above.
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