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I am a newbie to the gun world and Im looking to buy a good rifle that will last me a lifetime. Im mainly going to punch paper so my first thought was a .223 caliber rifle but Im leaning towards something in a higher caliber in case I decide to go hunting later on.
These are my favorite so far..... Please give me your thoughts and advice on calibers and manufacturers..

These are the calibers on deciding on (.223, .243, 30-06, 308)

Remington 700 - synthetic stock with stainless barrell
Ruger M77 Hawkeye Sporter (front runner)
Browning A-Bolt, Stainless

In case you havent noticed Im a big fan of the the stainless barrells.. hahahahah
Let me know what you think
 

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all good choices as far as the gun goes...ford, chevy dodge thing...for caliber you need to identify what your gonna do...hunting, a 30-06 can be used for just about anything but your not going to shoot 100 rds out of a bolt very often..conversely, a 223, not so great for hunting, but you can shoot it a ton without getting beat up....one of the MANY reasons for owning several firearms
also-since you say yourt a newbie, whats the big hangup on ss barrel? nothing wrong with'm, just not a deciding for me
 

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btwoms12 said:
I just love the way they look!
And they don't rust...much... ;)

Believe me that what you think is going to be a lifetime rifle, may not be. It will be one of many.
The only two rifles I will not consider selling or trading are my first two: a Saiga, and a stainless steel .308 Savage 12 with the varmint profile barrel. I don't shoot the Savage much because it's not much of a challenge to put the bullets touching at 100 (hand loads).
 

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KCK2100 said:
Any reason you wouldn't be interested in a nice .22 cal to learn the basics with ?
Agreed. Cheap to buy, cheap to shoot, easy to learn on. You can get a Ruger 10/22 with stainless barrel.
 

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I am learning on a friends .22.  Id rather spend my money on something a little better.
 

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btwoms12 said:
$400-$700
Since you're a big spender: Look for a bolt action rifle with a wood stock, iron sights, in a medium caliber, like a Remington in .308, or .270. Don't bother with "combo" packages since the scope is usually crap. You can add optics later. A good quality rifle, and scope will be a "lifetime" rifle.
If you are just punching paper look for a rifle with a heavy barrel, possibly a single shot. The receivers of single shot rifle will have less holes in them, and are stronger. The heavy barrels tolerate heat better than thin hunting rifle barrels.
A thin barrel will usually put the first three to five rounds on the sweet spot, and after they get hot you'll be lucky to get shots on the same six inch circle.

A Ruger 10/22 is like an AR-15: More accessories and options than a Barbie doll, and usually cheaper.
 

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If I was picking up a lightweight stainless bolt action
rifle for target & hunting, I'd go with these 2 in this
order:

1. Weatherby Vanguard Series 2
(Very Well Built, Super Accurate, 2 Stage Trigger)

2. Remington 700 SPS Stainless
(Solid History & Reliable Performance)

I tend to find the stainless barrels are more accurate in
sporty hunting rifles regardless of the more appealing
look anyways.

Both by default have hinged plates but I would change it
them to detachable magazines - kits available.

I don't think it's worth spending the extra $ on Browning,
great guns but does the extra cost justify the rifle being
that much better? Not IMO.

I would start with a .308 or .30-06 but I know for me I
would go straight to the 300 WinMag. :) I like the
effective range and bigger game capabilities.

Keep in mind about ammo costs too, 300 WinMags
you'll need to load if you do a lot of target. Also, you'll
need to decide if 30 caliber recoils is something that
you can shoot comfortably.

I also prefer bull barrels, but that's another story
and my list of 2 rifles would change.

.270 is a good all rounder that will do most of what
you'll want/need in this early part of your firearms
experience.

Happy shopping & shooting.

Peace,
GH-07
 

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Pat M said:
+1

Savage is definitely the best bang for the buck
with excellent accuracy. I would've added it to
my list if it wasn't for the rifles he listed are all
24" barrels... not that it was probably mattered
anyways to a new shooter.

Most Savage rifles are 22". You'd have to move
to a magnum bullet to get 24".

I'd would go for the Accutrigger & Accustock so
my Savage choice would be the Model 16/116
for this type of rifle purchase.

Peace,
GH-07
 

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Maverick said:
Ruger Mini 14 .223
+1

A very good rifle right out of the box, and don't let anyone tell you otherwise. The new ones are better than they've ever been. Reasonably priced, fun to shoot, dead-bang reliable and almost sublime in its simplicity in the Garand lineage. It's not the best at anything but it's very good at almost everything (target, medium game, plinking, home defense, etc.). And the .223/5.56 is one of the cheapest and commonly available center fire rounds (the Mini can shoot both).
 

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Another vote for Ruger, mini 14, superb semi in .223, or the mini 30 in 7.62 x 39, the ak round. Bump it up one more time and add the Gunsite Ruger Scout, a handy bolt gun chambered in .308 with a detachable box magazine, iron sights and the option for a forward or conventionally mounted scope.
 

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GH, what bigger game are you going to kill with a 300 mag that you couldn't with an '06?
Ghost Hunter said:
If I was picking up a lightweight stainless bolt action
rifle for target & hunting, I'd go with these 2 in this
order:

1. Weatherby Vanguard Series 2
(Very Well Built, Super Accurate, 2 Stage Trigger)

2. Remington 700 SPS Stainless
(Solid History & Reliable Performance)

I tend to find the stainless barrels are more accurate in
sporty hunting rifles regardless of the more appealing
look anyways.

Both by default have hinged plates but I would change it
them to detachable magazines - kits available.

I don't think it's worth spending the extra $ on Browning,
great guns but does the extra cost justify the rifle being
that much better? Not IMO.

I would start with a .308 or .30-06 but I know for me I
would go straight to the 300 WinMag. :) I like the
effective range and bigger game capabilities.

Keep in mind about ammo costs too, 300 WinMags
you'll need to load if you do a lot of target. Also, you'll
need to decide if 30 caliber recoils is something that
you can shoot comfortably.

I also prefer bull barrels, but that's another story
and my list of 2 rifles would change.

.270 is a good all rounder that will do most of what
you'll want/need in this early part of your firearms
experience.

Happy shopping & shooting.

Peace,
GH-07
 

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From your list, I would go with the Remington or Ruger, in that order. Though Browning rifles are great, they are almost impossible to re-barrel without destroying the receiver.

To comment on another member's recommendation. Savage makes really reasonably priced rifles. One main advantage of the Savage is that the barrels are user changeable.
 

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phumb said:
GH, what bigger game are you going to kill with a 300 mag that you couldn't with an '06?
Well, not counting some of the big African game,
here in US/CA I've used it for Canadian Moose,
Alaskan Wood Bison, Colorado Flat Tops Elk,
and Alaskan Brown or Grizzly.

Flatter shooting, longer range (for Colorado),
more energy (ummph), ability to take heavier
bullets (220gr) for tougher game like Cape
Buffalo... and of course for it's quick kill.

I don't mind the extra recoil, I'm use to shooting
big guns anyway. :p

Not to mention the "confidence" factor. I rather
have a 300 WinMag by my side knowing it'll do
the job... hands down.

Nothing wrong with the .30-06, after 100yrs
in existence it remains a formidable accurate
hunting round. To me, it's basically a "faster
out the barrel" version of a .308 Win. However
it's slightly larger cartridge does has some
diminishing returns when it comes to target
shooting. But that's another story. :)

Peace,
GH-07
 
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