[bachi]

I was reading in some blogs about the Roni pistol conversion for a few different pistols ( i.e. Glock) to a carbine - looks cool. But they are a no no in NY bec they need the pistol to be registered as a SBR.

But now Command Arms makes a non NFA conversion called the Recon. My question is , is this conversion legal in NY?( assuming that you are not using a pre-ban pistol in the conversion)
http://store.commandarms.com/products/RONIRG1.html

 

[Parashooter]

without a shoulder stock it seems a bit pointless. It's just adding bulk and a sling to a pistol.

OTOH, it sure does look 'Mall-Ninja' ;D

As far as legality, I would guess that since it is an accessory, NOT a gun, it wouldn't be a problem - a gun would have to meet the Silly 50oz. max weight in NY. But the bare gun makes that... otherwise we couldn't have scopes on handguns.

 

[bachi]

I would guess that since it is an accessory, NOT a gun, it wouldn't be a problem -

I guess that would be the question, is this an accessory? is there a legal differentiation.

I reviewed the awb law, and it does not differentiate between accessories and bare pistols. this conversion adds about 48 ounces to the Glock, so it would be over 50 ounces , one evil feature , it also has a barrel shroud ( not that shoulder thing that goes up) a second evil feature.

And the point is not why someone would want it, the fact that it is available in the rest of the country is reason enough to discuss if it is legal in NY

 

[bachi]

Any other opinions out there?

 

[SydneyH]

No, it wouldn't be legal in NY.
The Roni pistol conversion is an NFA item, which is banned in NY.

 

[AkunaMatata]

That is hideous. I threw up a little in my mouth.

You should put a "grotesque graphics" warning in the subject line next time!

 

[cjj]

It looked... interesting, that was until I saw the price... $349.00!

 

[bachi]

No, it wouldn't be legal in NY.
The Roni pistol conversion is an NFA item, which is banned in NY.

The Recon is a non NFA variant , it neither creates a SBR or a AOW,(see the link above), but the question is , aside from it's questionable looks, does it violate the NY AWB law?

 

[SydneyH]

You're right. I misread the description.
However, if it makes the pistol weight exceed 50oz, it might violate NY's AWB.
Better to ask an FFL or an attorney knowledgeable in such matters.

The Recon is a non NFA variant , it neither creates a SBR or a AOW,(see the link above), but the question is , aside from it's questionable looks, does it violate the NY AWB law?

 

[bachi]

50 ounces is only one evil feature, you need two to hit the AWB , would the extended portion be considered a barrel shroud?

 

[cas]

50oz is the manufactured weight, not the weight after you hang a bunch of crap on it.

I do wonder if that bipod could be construed as a vertical hand grip, which would make in an NFA violation.

 

[Skope]

Why would they do that to a perfectly good Glock!?    

 

[Paté]

Who knew it was possible to make a Glock look worse.... :-/

 

[gunsngolf]

Other than looking cool at the range, what's the point? It's no longer concealable. Your not going to walk down the street with that silly contraption hanging from your shoulder.

 

[sigequinox220]

Other than looking cool at the range, what's the point? It's no longer concealable. Your not going to walk down the street with that silly contraption hanging from your shoulder.

From my understanding, he could care less how cool/uncool, practical,unpractical it is, but if it's legal or not...and if not, why not.

 

[bachi]

From my understanding, he could care less how cool/uncool, practical,unpractical it is, but if it's legal or not...and if not, why not.

Finally someone gets it

 

[sherm66]

Other than looking cool at the range...

I wouldn't even give it that much credit.

 

[CaptainMitchell]

Been waiting to find out the same for the M&P. They don't only make them for glocks

 

[icom]

Here in NY...you have to ask.. ;D

 

[Lostinthewoods]

Would be legal on a pre-sept 94 BLOCK...er GLOCK