Question regarding Travel

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BigB

Discussion Starter · Jan 7, 2012

Hey guys another new member here. I've been looking around on this site and many others for a while,
as well as doing some research to try to get all the answers but I'm still a little confused.
I am a new york resident ( Suffolk county) And my father lives in Vermont,
i travel to Vermont often and lived up there for many years. would it be legal to purchase Long rifles, ammunition, and things such as
magazines in Vermont and bring them back to new york? As far as I've been told, as long as the firearms are legal in NY also it shouldn't
be a problem. But I'm not sure about the ammunition and accessories.

Thanks for reading my post and any information you guys can help me out with. I'm sorry if i posted this in the wrong section of the forum.

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BigB

Discussion Starter · #1 · Jan 7, 2012

Hey guys another new member here. I've been looking around on this site and many others for a while,
as well as doing some research to try to get all the answers but I'm still a little confused.
I am a new york resident ( Suffolk county) And my father lives in Vermont,
i travel to Vermont often and lived up there for many years. would it be legal to purchase Long rifles, ammunition, and things such as
magazines in Vermont and bring them back to new york? As far as I've been told, as long as the firearms are legal in NY also it shouldn't
be a problem. But I'm not sure about the ammunition and accessories.

Thanks for reading my post and any information you guys can help me out with. I'm sorry if i posted this in the wrong section of the forum.

vmtcmt

· #3 · Jan 7, 2012

Vermont, being a state contiguous to NY, meaning it shares a border with NY.

Long guns are no problem, handguns must go through an FFL. Ammo an accessories must be NY legal as well. So no, you can't buy a full cap mag in VT and legally bring it into NY.

Section 265.40 Purchase of rifles and/or shotguns in contiguous states

Definitions. As used in this act:

1. "Contiguous state" shall mean any state having any portion of its border in common with a portion of the border of the state of New York;

2. All other terms herein shall be given the meaning prescribed in Public Law 90-618 known as the "Gun Control Act of 1968" (18 U.S.C. 921).

It shall be lawful for a person or persons residing in this state, to purchase or otherwise obtain a rifle and/or shotgun in a contiguous state, and to receive or transport such rifle and/or shotgun into this state; provided, however, such person is otherwise eligible to possess a rifle and/or shotgun under the laws of this state.

http://www.nraila.org/statelawpdfs/NYSL.pdf

It is lawful for NY residents to purchase or obtain rifles or shotguns in a contiguous state and to receive and transport said rifle and shotguns into the state, provided the person is otherwise eligible to possess a rifle or shotgun under NY law.

Nothing special here, either:
http://www.nraila.org/gunlaws/nyc.aspx

vmtcmt

· #4 · Jan 7, 2012

Vermont, being a state contiguous to NY, meaning it shares a border with NY.

Long guns are no problem, handguns must go through an FFL. Ammo an accessories must be NY legal as well. So no, you can't buy a full cap mag in VT and legally bring it into NY.

Section 265.40 Purchase of rifles and/or shotguns in contiguous states

Definitions. As used in this act:

1. "Contiguous state" shall mean any state having any portion of its border in common with a portion of the border of the state of New York;

2. All other terms herein shall be given the meaning prescribed in Public Law 90-618 known as the "Gun Control Act of 1968" (18 U.S.C. 921).

It shall be lawful for a person or persons residing in this state, to purchase or otherwise obtain a rifle and/or shotgun in a contiguous state, and to receive or transport such rifle and/or shotgun into this state; provided, however, such person is otherwise eligible to possess a rifle and/or shotgun under the laws of this state.

http://www.nraila.org/statelawpdfs/NYSL.pdf

It is lawful for NY residents to purchase or obtain rifles or shotguns in a contiguous state and to receive and transport said rifle and shotguns into the state, provided the person is otherwise eligible to possess a rifle or shotgun under NY law.

Nothing special here, either:
http://www.nraila.org/gunlaws/nyc.aspx

BigB

Discussion Starter · #5 · Jan 7, 2012

Thank you very much vmtcmt for the helpful information. So bringing down ammo is alright and as long as the Rifles are legal in NY also its o.k.

Now if i was to obtain a .22lr handgun from my father (blood relative, legal guardian) under the code 18 U.S.C. 922(x) would my father and i Be able to bring down the handgun to New York, unloaded and in a locked container?

Thanks again for the patience, i Knew this was the right place to come.

BigB

Discussion Starter · #6 · Jan 7, 2012

Thank you very much vmtcmt for the helpful information. So bringing down ammo is alright and as long as the Rifles are legal in NY also its o.k.

Now if i was to obtain a .22lr handgun from my father (blood relative, legal guardian) under the code 18 U.S.C. 922(x) would my father and i Be able to bring down the handgun to New York, unloaded and in a locked container?

Thanks again for the patience, i Knew this was the right place to come.

BigB

Discussion Starter · #7 · Jan 7, 2012

And i just now see the newbies unite section for beginners questions. My apologies guys.

BigB

Discussion Starter · #8 · Jan 7, 2012

And i just now see the newbies unite section for beginners questions. My apologies guys.

vmtcmt

· #9 · Jan 7, 2012

If your father wanted to bring the gun down for his own use in a sanctioned competition, then yes, he can. Can he bring it down to just go plinking at a range, or to transfer to you, no. Especially if you do not have a NY handgun license. Then it is HELL no.

vmtcmt

· #10 · Jan 7, 2012

If your father wanted to bring the gun down for his own use in a sanctioned competition, then yes, he can. Can he bring it down to just go plinking at a range, or to transfer to you, no. Especially if you do not have a NY handgun license. Then it is HELL no.

T.Webb

· #11 · Jan 7, 2012

BigB said:
Thank you very much vmtcmt for the helpful information. So bringing down ammo is alright and as long as the Rifles are legal in NY also its o.k.

Now if i was to obtain a .22lr handgun from my father (blood relative, legal guardian) under the code 18 U.S.C. 922(x) would my father and i Be able to bring down the handgun to New York, unloaded and in a locked container?

Thanks again for the patience, i Knew this was the right place to come.

Long guns and hand guns are a completely different thing. First off, you, legally can't even touch a hand gun in New york without a hand gun license. Second, if you and your father were to come down to Long Island with your fathers Vermont legal gun, you'd both be guilty of breaking the law. It sucks. But it is what it is. Now, if you get the license, you can't just show up at Suffolk and "put" it on your license. You'll have to take posession in a NY based FFL. So, you'll need to drop the gun off at a Vermont gun shop and have it sent FFL to FFL. Then, you bring your Purchase document from Suffolk to your FFL and he releases the gun to you. After that you bring the gun back to Yaphank for the inspection. Did I mention to you that it sucks ??

Second, NYC is worse. If you're driving through NYC, your long guns are legal for transport only. That means, don't get off the Cross Island Parkway to stop at my favorite bakery in Whitestone. And by NYC law, those long guns must be stored in a locked case. Possibly with a trigger lock.

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T.Webb

· #12 · Jan 7, 2012

BigB said:
Thank you very much vmtcmt for the helpful information. So bringing down ammo is alright and as long as the Rifles are legal in NY also its o.k.

Now if i was to obtain a .22lr handgun from my father (blood relative, legal guardian) under the code 18 U.S.C. 922(x) would my father and i Be able to bring down the handgun to New York, unloaded and in a locked container?

Thanks again for the patience, i Knew this was the right place to come.

Long guns and hand guns are a completely different thing. First off, you, legally can't even touch a hand gun in New york without a hand gun license. Second, if you and your father were to come down to Long Island with your fathers Vermont legal gun, you'd both be guilty of breaking the law. It sucks. But it is what it is. Now, if you get the license, you can't just show up at Suffolk and "put" it on your license. You'll have to take posession in a NY based FFL. So, you'll need to drop the gun off at a Vermont gun shop and have it sent FFL to FFL. Then, you bring your Purchase document from Suffolk to your FFL and he releases the gun to you. After that you bring the gun back to Yaphank for the inspection. Did I mention to you that it sucks ??

Second, NYC is worse. If you're driving through NYC, your long guns are legal for transport only. That means, don't get off the Cross Island Parkway to stop at my favorite bakery in Whitestone. And by NYC law, those long guns must be stored in a locked case. Possibly with a trigger lock.

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Dodgy

· #13 · Jan 7, 2012

T.Webb said:
Long guns and hand guns are a completely different thing. First off, you, legally can't even touch a hand gun in New york without a hand gun license. Second, if you and your father were to come down to Long Island with your fathers Vermont legal gun, you'd both be guilty of breaking the law. It sucks. But it is what it is. Now, if you get the license, you can't just show up at Suffolk and "put" it on your license. You'll have to take posession in a NY based FFL. So, you'll need to drop the gun off at a Vermont gun shop and have it sent FFL to FFL. Then, you bring your Purchase document from Suffolk to your FFL and he releases the gun to you. After that you bring the gun back to Yaphank for the inspection. Did I mention to you that it sucks ??

Second, NYC is worse. If you're driving through NYC, your long guns are legal for transport only. That means, don't get off the Cross Island Parkway to stop at my favorite bakery in Whitestone. And by NYC law, those long guns must be stored in a locked case. Possibly with a trigger lock.

Actually in NYC you don't need to travel with your rifle in a locked case and do not need to be stored in a locked case. You are legally only required to have a trigger lock when you sell the rifle...very odd.

When you travel to and from an authorized range or hunting area, or transport your
firearm for any reason, the firearm must be carried unloaded in a non-transparent
case, and the ammunition must be carried separately. If you are transporting your
firearm in a vehicle, it should be kept locked in the trunk.

You must take proper safety measures at all times to safeguard your firearm from
unauthorized persons-especially children. Your rifle or shotgun should be kept
unloaded in a secure location in you home. Ammunition should be stored separately
from you rifle or shotgun.

Dodgy

· #14 · Jan 7, 2012

T.Webb said:
Long guns and hand guns are a completely different thing. First off, you, legally can't even touch a hand gun in New york without a hand gun license. Second, if you and your father were to come down to Long Island with your fathers Vermont legal gun, you'd both be guilty of breaking the law. It sucks. But it is what it is. Now, if you get the license, you can't just show up at Suffolk and "put" it on your license. You'll have to take posession in a NY based FFL. So, you'll need to drop the gun off at a Vermont gun shop and have it sent FFL to FFL. Then, you bring your Purchase document from Suffolk to your FFL and he releases the gun to you. After that you bring the gun back to Yaphank for the inspection. Did I mention to you that it sucks ??

Second, NYC is worse. If you're driving through NYC, your long guns are legal for transport only. That means, don't get off the Cross Island Parkway to stop at my favorite bakery in Whitestone. And by NYC law, those long guns must be stored in a locked case. Possibly with a trigger lock.

Actually in NYC you don't need to travel with your rifle in a locked case and do not need to be stored in a locked case. You are legally only required to have a trigger lock when you sell the rifle...very odd.

When you travel to and from an authorized range or hunting area, or transport your
firearm for any reason, the firearm must be carried unloaded in a non-transparent
case, and the ammunition must be carried separately. If you are transporting your
firearm in a vehicle, it should be kept locked in the trunk.

You must take proper safety measures at all times to safeguard your firearm from
unauthorized persons-especially children. Your rifle or shotgun should be kept
unloaded in a secure location in you home. Ammunition should be stored separately
from you rifle or shotgun.

BigB

Discussion Starter · #15 · Jan 7, 2012

Thanks for the help guys.

BigB

Discussion Starter · #16 · Jan 7, 2012

Thanks for the help guys.

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