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Oh, My Achin' Back

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Well, at least he didn't walk into a pharmacy and shoot someone else.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57349273/mont-man-denied-painkillers-shoots-self/

Mont. man denied painkillers, shoots self

(AP) MILES CITY, Mont. - Montana authorities say a man shot himself in the ankle after hospital staff refused to give him painkillers for his back.

The Miles City police chief says the 48-year-old man was upset when left Holy Rosary Healthcare hospital Monday night, so he grabbed a gun from his car and shot himself in the hospital parking lot to get treatment.

Prosecutors are reviewing the case to determine whether to charge the man, whose name was not released.

The Miles City Star reports the hospital was temporarily locked down after the shooting.
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I have has some patients demand this stuff......but that's extreme . Deff a psych component ..lol . Hope the doc hd a carry lol
Jackass shot himself in the wrong end. He should have aimed about six inches above his neck.
Huh people (head shaking)!!! Great move jacka$$!
Mad Russian said:
Jackass shot himself in the wrong end. He should have aimed about six inches above his neck.
What, and shot himself in the stomach?
:)
... Actually some legitimate people can be that desparate. Try living with severe chronic pain 24/7 .
warmnfuzzyar said:
... Actually some legitimate people can be that desparate. Try living with severe chronic pain 24/7 .
Same as being married....with children...... :X

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Guess he doesn't know about the Icy Hot Patch Shaq recommends.. 8)
Wow. Obamacare is a b1tch.

If the prescription for back spasms is to shoot yourself what the hell are they going to do about e/d?
The Robfather said:
Wow. Obamacare is a b1tch.

If the prescription for back spasms is to shoot yourself what the hell are they going to do about e/d?
As far as I understand Obamacare: If your unit isn't working, then you have no need for a working unit.
Mad Russian said:
As far as I understand Obamacare: If your unit isn't working, then you have no need for a working unit.
Think of all the lonely women! I may have to franchise myself. Like rent-a-wreck. Only larger.

See what i did there? Self hi-five.
The Robfather said:
Think of all the lonely women! I may have to franchise myself. Like rent-a-wreck. Only larger.

See what i did there? Self hi-five.
.... you mean like " Deuce Bigalo " ?
The neck would have been sufficient!

Mad Russian said:
Jackass shot himself in the wrong end. He should have aimed about six inches above his neck.
warmnfuzzyar said:
... Actually some legitimate people can be that desparate. Try living with severe chronic pain 24/7 .
inorite! I suffer 24/7 with chronic back/hip & knee pain. I have more metal holding my spine together than in my Colt Defender.

[putting on asbestos undies] If they would legalize pot much of this chronic pain could be alleviated. Not to mention the tax benefits the gov't would gain from the legalization.

I'd rather take an occasional toke then get addicted to opiate pain killers. The latter shuts down your digestive tract, makes you nauseous, constipates you, and you suffer withdrawal symptoms. The former Increases appetite, reduces nauseousness and relieves your pain without becoming addicting. The pain relieving CBD extract has been known to help stem severe seizures and relieve pain without the psychoactive effects of the THC extract.

Crawling back to my corner to hide from the impending onslaught. ;-)
MrsLIGun said:
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[putting on asbestos undies] If they would legalize pot much of this chronic pain could be alleviated. Not to mention the tax benefits the gov't would gain from the legalization.
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From a libertarian perspective, it's just plain lunacy that pot is still illegal in this day and age. I can see controlling other substances, but at a minimum, pot should be legal. The charade they play in California is the same thing they did with medicinal alcohol during prohibition. If you just study the parallels, you'd see how stupid the whole thing is.

The greatest benefit would be destroying more than half the revenue to the Mexican drug cartels. It would choke off their air supply. They would still traffic in narcotics but they would be weakened beyond recognition. This would make a lot of other problems go away and other problems easier to solve.

The tax revenue would also be a benefit but this is the least of the reasons. It's not like any amount of revenue will ever be enough for the Federal Government.
BLAMMO said:
From a libertarian perspective, it's just plain lunacy that pot is still illegal in this day and age. I can see controlling other substances, but at a minimum, pot should be legal. The charade they play in California is the same thing they did with medicinal alcohol during prohibition. If you just study the parallels, you'd see how stupid the whole thing is.

The greatest benefit would be destroying more than half the revenue to the Mexican drug cartels. It would choke off their air supply. They would still traffic in narcotics but they would be weakened beyond recognition. This would make a lot of other problems go away and other problems easier to solve.

The tax revenue would also be a benefit but this is the least of the reasons. It's not like any amount of revenue will ever be enough for the Federal Government.
MJ has shown promise to treat pain, specifically the neuropathic type seem with Diabetes, MS and other neurological disorders. I just see it as a gateway drug. There is a capsule form out there already called "Marinol" which is used as an appetite enhancer for people with HIV/AIDS, not sure if it has an off-label use for chronic pain treatment or not.
Nordon said:
MJ has shown promise to treat pain, specifically the neuropathic type seem with Diabetes, MS and other neurological disorders. I just see it as a gateway drug. There is a capsule form out there already called "Marinol" which is used as an appetite enhancer for people with HIV/AIDS, not sure if it has an off-label use for chronic pain treatment or not.
I would posit that Marijuana is perceived to be a gateway drug precisely because it is illegal. Once you have committed one illegal act, it is easy to contemplate committing another.

Prescription opiate pain killers are much more of a "gateway" drug. People shoot up pharmacies looking for opiates. As Marijuana is not physically adictive, the addictive drive to commit violent crime to get a marijuana high is very low. Potheads are just too mellow ;)

However, no one on this forum should worry that pot would become legal any time soon in this country. The Mexican drug cartels would never allow it. They own way too many politicians all over the United States.
BLAMMO said:
From a libertarian perspective, it's just plain lunacy that pot is still illegal in this day and age. I can see controlling other substances, but at a minimum, pot should be legal. The charade they play in California is the same thing they did with medicinal alcohol during prohibition. If you just study the parallels, you'd see how stupid the whole thing is.

The greatest benefit would be destroying more than half the revenue to the Mexican drug cartels. It would choke off their air supply. They would still traffic in narcotics but they would be weakened beyond recognition. This would make a lot of other problems go away and other problems easier to solve.

The tax revenue would also be a benefit but this is the least of the reasons. It's not like any amount of revenue will ever be enough for the Federal Government.
No drug should be illegal. Only selling it to minors -- same as alcohol.
I believe it will be legal someday.
It will be taxed.
At first there will be revenue.
Soon however ( my guess within 5 years) it will cost the taxpayer money.
Why? you might ask.
Because the government will add bureaucracy to regulating it. They will subsidize it for people who can't afford it and between subsidies and the inefficiencies of government they will lose money.

Think it won't happen like that? 2 things to consider;
1)When California had it on the ballot their were many talking about subsidizing it.
2) OTB , Off Track Betting, in NY lost money.

BLAMMO said:
From a libertarian perspective, it's just plain lunacy that pot is still illegal in this day and age. I can see controlling other substances, but at a minimum, pot should be legal. The charade they play in California is the same thing they did with medicinal alcohol during prohibition. If you just study the parallels, you'd see how stupid the whole thing is.

The greatest benefit would be destroying more than half the revenue to the Mexican drug cartels. It would choke off their air supply. They would still traffic in narcotics but they would be weakened beyond recognition. This would make a lot of other problems go away and other problems easier to solve.

The tax revenue would also be a benefit but this is the least of the reasons. It's not like any amount of revenue will ever be enough for the Federal Government.
Aquabach said:
I believe it will be legal someday.
It will be taxed.
At first there will be revenue.
Soon however ( my guess within 5 years) it will cost the taxpayer money.
Why? you might ask.
Because the government will add bureaucracy to regulating it. They will subsidize it for people who can't afford it and between subsidies and the inefficiencies of government they will lose money.
But will it cost the government more money than prescription opiates? Will it cost more lives than prescription opiates are costing now?
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