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http://nypost.com/2015/09/23/off-duty-cops-barred-from-bringing-guns-to-see-pope/

Off-duty cops who plan to see the pope during his tour of the Big Apple are being warned to leave their guns at home - or face being sent away and reprimanded by NYPD brass, police officials warned in a memo.

"All members of the service who plan to attend a papal event while off-duty are hereby advised that firearms will not be permitted," read a message sent to police officers on Wednesday.
"Any member with a firearm will be excluded from the event."

Despite heightened concerns about an assassination attempt or act of terror , off-duty cops will ultimately have to abide by the very same rules that civilians are asked to - a move that is not sitting well with members of the force.

"This is our city and we should be able to carry," a police source said, describing the policy as "very offensive."

"God forbid something happens," he explained. "You're going against the patrol guide which says you're required to be armed at all times while in New York City. If something bad happens and you're not armed, you're not able to protect yourself, your family, friends and the public. You have the leader of the biggest religion in the world and the potential for violence is there. I'd like to be able to protect myself if something, God forbid, does happen."

Another source added, " I n cases like this, it's always better to have your gun and not need it, than to not have your gun and need it. Obviously, in the case of the pope, we're all worried about an assassination attempt.

" It would be better to have a professional NYPD cop with his sidearm because that adds another layer of security for the pope. We want to protect him in every shape or form. If a cop is walking to one of the vents and sees something and needs to engage with his weapon, you're going to want that gun on you."

Ed Mullins, president of the Sergeants Benevolent Association, also blasted the no-gun protocol - calling it "insulting to all members of the NYPD."

"This makes no sense," he said. "The NYPD has stated the Papal Detail is a high-risk security event and then prohibits the very same members of the NYPD from carrying their department-issued firearms off duty while attending a papal event with their families. I guess someone forgot law enforcement members are being targeted and killed across the nation."

In addition, police sources referred to the requirement as "another slap across the face to the police department, where our leader does not back us."

"It shows that Commissioner Bratton bows down to whatever he's told to do," a police source said. "Bratton should have backed us, said these are my cops, if they want to go, they should not be denied entry. This is just more security and eyes that would be out there to possibly thwart anything that might happen."
 

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I understand and agree with them 1000%. My only issue is that while we may not be as well trained, we (licensed gun owners) feel somewhat defenseless like that every day of the week.
Not quite the same I know but still an insult and denial of rights.
 
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I am catholic and I support the church and the pope.

I have an issue with how political this pope is and I personally don't think it's a Pope's place to tell a country about climate control and other social issues. It's one thing to speak to the congregation with his views, it's another to address congress. I'm not liking the direction he is taking.
 

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I just hope that nothing happens while the Pope is in town because if it does, God forbids, the political minds who came up with this brilliant idea, will be wishing that the cops they disarmed were packing. Hind sight is always 20/20.
 

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I just hope that nothing happens while the Pope is in town because if it does, God forbids, the political minds who came up with this brilliant idea, will be wishing that the cops they disarmed were packing. Hind sight is always 20/20.
Liberals never learn from their mistakes.
that's why they make them over and over again.
 

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"off-duty cops will ultimately have to abide by the very same rules that civilians are asked to - a move that is not sitting well with members of the force."

I'll just let that sink in for awhile.
It sunk in immediately !!
 

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My issue with this is, one of those off duty cops may not be able to stop a crime or save someone if they aren't carrying, especially with an event surrounding the Pope.
 

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"off-duty cops will ultimately have to abide by the very same rules that civilians are asked to - a move that is not sitting well with members of the force."

I'll just let that sink in for awhile.
I don't think that needed to 'sink in'. I do think that we all absorbed that NY Post reporter's statement as soon as we read it.
 

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Next it will be... under cover officers shouldn't be armed because they could be mistake for criminals by uniformed Police.

Shameful totally shameful, but hey NYC has the strictest guns laws around, so it must be the safest place to be.
No need for their guns.
 

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I just hope that nothing happens while the Pope is in town because if it does, God forbids, the political minds who came up with this brilliant idea, will be wishing that the cops they disarmed were packing. Hind sight is always 20/20.
God forbid is right. However, the answer as always from the left (which is all of NYC sinkhole) will be "We need more gun control!!" SMH
 

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The big difference between an "off-duty" officer and a CCW permittee is that the officer has a legal obligation to intervene. God forbid something happens, they are obligated to go after the bad guy with what??? As a CCW we have the option to hide or act. They do not have that choice.
 

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In the past year or so we have seen other examples similar:

- Off duty police told they have to leave a Denny's because their guns are frightening customers.
- Off duty police not allowed to enter a Chuckee Cheeses with their guns.
- NFL not not allowing off duty police with ethir guns into stadiums.
etc
 
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