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Sorry to interrupt all the important discussions going on about bushes and dentist.
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http://www.syracuse.com/state/index.ssf/2016/03/ny_senate_committee_votes_down_gun_control_bill.html#incart_m-rpt-1

NY State Senate committee votes down gun control bill

ALBANY, N.Y. -- A New York State Senate committee rejected Monday a bill that would make it a crime to fail to safely store a firearm.

In a party line vote, the Senate codes committee voted down the proposed Children's Weapon Accident Prevention Act, which would make it a felony if a gun owner fails to safely store a loaded weapon and the gun is used by a child under 18 to kill or injure a child.

The bill also would have made it a less serious violation for a gun owner to fail to lock up a weapon or disable it with a trigger lock when the firearm is not in their immediate possession or control.

The state Assembly has passed similar bills in recent years, but the legislation has never made it through Senate committees for a vote on the floor of the Senate.

Sen. Michael Nozzolio, R-Fayette, the chair of the Senate codes committee voted against the bill, explaining, "It creates several problems for those trying to protect their families."

"However well-intentioned this measure may be, I believe it creates many more problems than you're anticipating," Nozzolio told the bill's sponsor, Sen. Liz Krueger, D-Manhattan.

Sen. Joseph Griffo, R-Rome, was among nine Republican senators who voted against the bill.

"You would think that protecting our kids from loaded weapons would be something we could all get behind, but apparently that is a bridge too far for my Republican colleagues," said Krueger.

Krueger cited statistics from the Centers for Disease Control that said that from 2005-2010, almost 3,800 people were killed in unintentional shootings, including over 1,300 young people under age 25. In 2013, guns were the second most common cause of death among children and teens, according to the center's statistics.

"Too many times we've all seen the tragic results when kids get their hands on guns. These tragedies are preventable, but today we failed yet again in our responsibility to New York's families," Krueger said.

Twenty-eight states and Washington, D.C., have laws holding gun owners responsible for failure to properly secure a firearm, according to Krueger. In 2000, legislation was enacted in New York to require the purchase of a safety lock with the purchase or transfer of a gun, but there is currently no requirement to use the device or safely store the gun.

Pending in the Assembly is a similar bill called Nicholas' Law, after 12-year-old Nicholas Naumkin, who was shot in the head by a 12-year-old friend playing with his father's gun at his friend's home in Wilton, N.Y. Naumkin died the following day, on Dec. 23, 2010.

Assemblywoman Amy Paulin, D-Scarsdale, is the sponsor of that bill.
 

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Another useless law. Unless your already being investigated for a crime, they are never going to know you left your gun unlocked.

If you do and a crime is committed, there is already plenty of crimes they can charge you with, such as criminally negligent homicide. There is no need for this law to legislate common sense
 

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Before I get too much into this.

I just want to make sure of one thing.

I'm supposed to be happy that the jackwagons who sit and do nothing but screw us, have shot down a law that defines how I can store my legal personal property?

1010 days.
 

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If having your son or daughters brains plastered all over your walls is not enough to motivate you to be smart about gun/child security then I'm sure the threat of some jail time will do it.

If I were in the senate committee I would have voted yes on the condition that my amendment be added. It would have required that all vehicle keys and key fobs be locked in a safe (separate from their batteries of course) when there are children living in the house. I'd like to see people who claim to be on our side make more of an effort to screw the socialist's and point our how stupid they are. Even if very few people notice it will still be good for morale.
 

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Glad to see the NYS Senate Republicans show at least a little backbone for a change. Does it make up for caving on unSAFE? Of course not...not even close. But at least this prevents the Democrats from imposing even more useless and burdensome gun control on us.
 

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Glad to see the NYS Senate Republicans show at least a little backbone for a change. Does it make up for caving on unSAFE? Of course not...not even close. But at least this prevents the Democrats from imposing even more useless and burdensome gun control on us.
Screw them all.

Leave this state as soon as you can.
 

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Screw them all.

Leave this state as soon as you can.
Unfortunately I am not able to leave anytime soon.

In tne mean time I will take whatever minor victories we can get.

It seems like some people complain and moan more when a vote goes our way than when one goes against us. The defeatism is not a bit helpful.
 

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Why just guns? If a child uses an adult's implement or toy to hurt himself or another kid, the adult gets a felony.

So if someone leaves a lighter or matches around and the kid burns the house down, dad gets a felony, right?

Or if the swimming pool gate is unlocked, mom and dad get the felony charges?

Or junior swallows moms sleeping pills or drain cleaner? Felony!!!!!

Lets get everybody a felony, whoo-heee!!!!! Compound all tragedies and fill up the jails.
 

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Why just guns? If a child uses an adult's implement or toy to hurt himself or another kid, the adult gets a felony.

So if someone leaves a lighter or matches around and the kid burns the house down, dad gets a felony, right?

Or if the swimming pool gate is unlocked, mom and dad get the felony charges?

Or junior swallows moms sleeping pills or drain cleaner? Felony!!!!!

Lets get everybody a felony, whoo-heee!!!!! Compound all tragedies and fill up the jails.
I believe there are already criminally negligent homicide laws on the books that could cover some of those situations as well as cases where children get hold of guns and kill people.

The determining factor as to whether felony charges should be filed should be the level of carelessness or recklessness displayed, not whether the negligence involved a gun, swimming pool (aka aquatic death trap), power tool, matches, pills, poison, etc.
 

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"including over 1,300 young people under age 25. In 2013"

Uh-huh... and exactly how many of those were actually "children"? You know, UNDER 18..

even if that number was say, 2/3 of that 1300 (833) realistically, that is a miniscule number in the scope of things.
But before we even get that far - guns are the second highest cause?.... I don't believe that - Car accidents, Drownings have always had numbers exponentially higher than guns... usually add a zero and then some.
 
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