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People on this forum complain about NY's procedures to get a Pistol license. Here is how North Carolina (the other NC) does it:

Only NC Residents can apply for a permit:
1) Attend an eight hour concealed handgun class, pay tuition ($50 and up depending on the instructor), pass a NC use of force test, After eight hours of classroom instruction, shoot 30 rounds on paper (21 have to hit the paper). Get completion certificate
2) Go to your local county Sheriff's office. Fill out a long application. Pay them the fee ($90), get fingerprinted (but only when a different office in the Sheriff's office is open for fingerprinting), Bring original Birth certificate, Certificate of Naturalization (if a naturalized citizen), NC Driver license or NC state ID and proof of residence (they make copies of these documents and return them to you) and concealed handgun class completion certificate (which they keep). Go to the local mental health place, pay them a fee (about $20) for a records check mailed to the Sheriff's office. Go to the local court office. pay them a fee (about $20) for a records check mailed to the Sheriff's office.
3) Wait three months. (law says 45 days).
4) Get permit if everything checks out.
5) Your permit is good for five years. So after four years and nine months of getting the license you will need to get a renewal. To get a renewal, you have to go to your local Sheriff's office, fill out an application again, pay them the fee ($90) again, get fingerprinted (again) and they will send you a renewal permit in a few weeks.

The permit is a wallet size laminated piece of typewritten paper and is only valid with your NC state ID or driver's license. Your permit number and your driver's license number is the same number.

You do not need four character affidavits and they do not call your boss but otherwise the process is complicated and expensive in its own right. Also, once you get a concealed handgun permit, you do not have to go through a NICS check to buy a handgun. Although in theory NC is a Shall Issue state, in practice the local Sheriff can deny your application on a whim and you have very little recourse (much like in NY). The questions on the NC application are basically the same as those on ATF form 4473 plus a question about impaired driving in the last three years.

Procedure to get a handgun purchase document in North Carolina (you have to be a NC resident to buy a handgun in NC under Federal law):
If you do not have a concealed handgun permit and you want to buy a handgun from a private person or a gun store, you need a purchase document in NC that costs $5/handgun and is good for five years.
You go to your Sheriff's office. Fill out an application, pay $5/gun. You need a NC state ID or drivers license and proof of US citizenship and proof of residence. They will copy them for their files and give you back the originals. They will do a NICS check and in a few minutes (just like in Suffolk county if you have pistol license) give you a Purchase document (just like in NY) that allows you to purchase a handgun.
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People on this forum complain about NY's procedures to get a Pistol license. Here is how North Carolina (the other NC) does it:

Only NC Residents can apply for a permit:
1) Attend an eight hour concealed handgun class, pay tuition ($50 and up depending on the instructor), pass a NC use of force test, After eight hours of classroom instruction, shoot 30 rounds on paper (21 have to hit the paper). Get completion certificate
2) Go to your local county Sheriff's office. Fill out a long application. Pay them the fee ($90), get fingerprinted (but only when a different office in the Sheriff's office is open for fingerprinting), Bring original Birth certificate, Certificate of Naturalization (if a naturalized citizen), NC Driver license or NC state ID and proof of residence (they make copies of these documents and return them to you) and concealed handgun class completion certificate (which they keep). Go to the local mental health place, pay them a fee (about $20) for a records check mailed to the Sheriff's office. Go to the local court office. pay them a fee (about $20) for a records check mailed to the Sheriff's office.
3) Wait three months. (law says 45 days).
4) Get permit if everything checks out.
5) Your permit is good for five years. So after four years and nine months of getting the license you will need to get a renewal. To get a renewal, you have to go to your local Sheriff's office, fill out an application again, pay them the fee ($90) again, get fingerprinted (again) and they will send you a renewal permit in a few weeks.

The permit is a wallet size laminated piece of typewritten paper and is only valid with your NC state ID or driver's license. Your permit number and your driver's license number is the same number.

You do not need four character affidavits and they do not call your boss but otherwise the process is complicated and expensive in its own right. Also, once you get a concealed handgun permit, you do not have to go through a NICS check to buy a handgun. Although in theory NC is a Shall Issue state, in practice the local Sheriff can deny your application on a whim and you have very little recourse (much like in NY). The questions on the NC application are basically the same as those on ATF form 4473 plus a question about impaired driving in the last three years.

Procedure to get a handgun purchase document in North Carolina (you have to be a NC resident to buy a handgun in NC under Federal law):
If you do not have a concealed handgun permit and you want to buy a handgun from a private person or a gun store, you need a purchase document in NC that costs $5/handgun and is good for five years.
You go to your Sheriff's office. Fill out an application, pay $5/gun. You need a NC state ID or drivers license and proof of US citizenship and proof of residence. They will copy them for their files and give you back the originals. They will do a NICS check and in a few minutes (just like in Suffolk county if you have pistol license) give you a Purchase document (just like in NY) that allows you to purchase a handgun.
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Yet they recognize every other states licenses!!!

I think a bunch of folks here myself included, would jump through those hoops if they would allow full carry in Nassau/Suffolk like they do down there...

Defiantly sounds like a hassle though!
Yet they recognize every other states licenses!!!

I think a bunch of folks here myself included, would jump through those hoops if they would allow full carry in Nassau/Suffolk like they do down there...

Defiantly sounds like a hassle though!
My friend just mover down there last month. He had to go to the Sheriff and fill out a form....they gave him 2 "purchase documents" to buy handguns that he can keep at home. He already has a handgun at home and if he wants to CCW he needs to go for an 8 hour class. That's it. Very simple actually.
My friend just mover down there last month. He had to go to the Sheriff and fill out a form....they gave him 2 "purchase documents" to buy handguns that he can keep at home. He already has a handgun at home and if he wants to CCW he needs to go for an 8 hour class. That's it. Very simple actually.
Your forgot to mention that a loaded gun under the seat of your car is legal, no permit, a gun in your house is legal, no permit just go an buy one (depends on county, may have to get a purchase document).  Very few people carry concealed in NC.   Everyone has a gun in thier car or truck.   Different society, most don't feel the need to carry concealed.  Virginia is similar, walk in buy the gun after the instant background check that they initiated prior to it being a federal law.  Keep it in your house, put it on the front seat of your car.  Just don't put in in your pants and try to hide it.  Virginia is now a must issue state.  20 years ago it wasn't that way, very, very few people could get a CCW permit.   Open carry, yes, CCW no!  I always thought it was strange.  
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Your forgot to mention that a loaded gun under the seat of your car is legal, no permit, a gun in your house is legal, no permit just go an buy one (depends on county, may have to get a purchase document).  Very few people carry concealed in NC.   Everyone has a gun in thier car or truck.   Different society, most don't feel the need to carry concealed.  Virginia is similar, walk in buy the gun after the instant background check that they initiated prior to it being a federal law.  Keep it in your house, put it on the front seat of your car.  Just don't put in in your pants and try to hide it.  Virginia is now a must issue state.  20 years ago it wasn't that way, very, very few people could get a CCW permit.   Open carry, yes, CCW no!  I always thought it was strange.  
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Well, as long as NY'ers keep moving there, they're bound to make it just like the State they fled. I blame the liberal movement down south.
Well, as long as NY'ers keep moving there, they're bound to make it just like the State they fled. I blame the liberal movement down south.
FULL METAL JACKET said:
Yet they recognize every other states licenses!!!

I think a bunch of folks here myself included, would jump through those hoops if they would allow full carry in Nassau/Suffolk like they do down there...
However, once you get an impossible to obtain carry license in NY, you can carry in many more places.

Some of the areas that an upstate NY full carry license holder can carry in Nassau/Suffolk that a North Carolina permit holder can not carry in in North Carolina:
1) Any area of any establishment that serves alcohol including almost all the better restaurants
2) Any parade or public assembly
3) Any place where admission is charged (e.g. Movie theater, sports event etc.)
4) Any place that has a posted no firearm sign on its front door

In addition, all firearms are prohibited completely during a local or regional state of emergency (e.g. local flood etc.)

Interesting statistics: In Ashe County, North Carolina, (where I have a second home), there are 950 concealed handgun permits with a county population of 28000 or about 1 person in 33 has a permit. In SCPD's jurisdiction there are 29,289 pistol licenses (see http://apps.suffolkcountyny.gov/police/pistollicense.htm) for a population of 1,360,000 in the western towns or about 1 person in 45 has a license. I suspect though that the handgun density of Ashe County, North Carolina is MUCH higher than Suffolk County but there is no definitive way to find that out as North Carolina does not register handguns and people down there will not answer surveys on these matters truthfully as they believe it is none of any one's business.
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FULL METAL JACKET said:
Yet they recognize every other states licenses!!!

I think a bunch of folks here myself included, would jump through those hoops if they would allow full carry in Nassau/Suffolk like they do down there...
However, once you get an impossible to obtain carry license in NY, you can carry in many more places.

Some of the areas that an upstate NY full carry license holder can carry in Nassau/Suffolk that a North Carolina permit holder can not carry in in North Carolina:
1) Any area of any establishment that serves alcohol including almost all the better restaurants
2) Any parade or public assembly
3) Any place where admission is charged (e.g. Movie theater, sports event etc.)
4) Any place that has a posted no firearm sign on its front door

In addition, all firearms are prohibited completely during a local or regional state of emergency (e.g. local flood etc.)

Interesting statistics: In Ashe County, North Carolina, (where I have a second home), there are 950 concealed handgun permits with a county population of 28000 or about 1 person in 33 has a permit. In SCPD's jurisdiction there are 29,289 pistol licenses (see http://apps.suffolkcountyny.gov/police/pistollicense.htm) for a population of 1,360,000 in the western towns or about 1 person in 45 has a license. I suspect though that the handgun density of Ashe County, North Carolina is MUCH higher than Suffolk County but there is no definitive way to find that out as North Carolina does not register handguns and people down there will not answer surveys on these matters truthfully as they believe it is none of any one's business.
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willgrah said:
Your forgot to mention that a loaded gun under the seat of your car is legal, no permit, a gun in your house is legal, no permit just go an buy one (depends on county, may have to get a purchase document). Very few people carry concealed in NC. Everyone has a gun in thier car or truck. Different society, most don't feel the need to carry concealed. Virginia is similar, walk in buy the gun after the instant background check that they initiated prior to it being a federal law. Keep it in your house, put it on the front seat of your car. Just don't put in in your pants and try to hide it. Virginia is now a must issue state. 20 years ago it wasn't that way, very, very few people could get a CCW permit. Open carry, yes, CCW no! I always thought it was strange.
Some of what you say above are myths that get people in trouble.

1. A loaded gun under the seat of your car is NOT legal in North Carolina unless you have a concealed handgun permit! It must be openly visible.
2. All counties require a purchase document to purchase a handgun. It is North Carolina law.
3. Although legal, Open Carry is frowned on in North Carolina. It becomes illegal the moment ANYONE complains to the police that you are open carrying. The legal phrase is causing Affray and "going armed to the terror of the public". The moment someone is "terrfied", you have to put the gun away.
willgrah said:
Your forgot to mention that a loaded gun under the seat of your car is legal, no permit, a gun in your house is legal, no permit just go an buy one (depends on county, may have to get a purchase document). Very few people carry concealed in NC. Everyone has a gun in thier car or truck. Different society, most don't feel the need to carry concealed. Virginia is similar, walk in buy the gun after the instant background check that they initiated prior to it being a federal law. Keep it in your house, put it on the front seat of your car. Just don't put in in your pants and try to hide it. Virginia is now a must issue state. 20 years ago it wasn't that way, very, very few people could get a CCW permit. Open carry, yes, CCW no! I always thought it was strange.
Some of what you say above are myths that get people in trouble.

1. A loaded gun under the seat of your car is NOT legal in North Carolina unless you have a concealed handgun permit! It must be openly visible.
2. All counties require a purchase document to purchase a handgun. It is North Carolina law.
3. Although legal, Open Carry is frowned on in North Carolina. It becomes illegal the moment ANYONE complains to the police that you are open carrying. The legal phrase is causing Affray and "going armed to the terror of the public". The moment someone is "terrfied", you have to put the gun away.
ligun said:
In addition, all firearms are prohibited completely during a local or regional state of emergency (e.g. local flood etc.)
I find this to be BS! That's exactly when I'd want a firearm
ligun said:
In addition, all firearms are prohibited completely during a local or regional state of emergency (e.g. local flood etc.)
I find this to be BS! That's exactly when I'd want a firearm
ligun said:
Some of what you say above are myths that get people in trouble.

1. A loaded gun under the seat of your car is NOT legal in North Carolina unless you have a concealed handgun permit! It must be openly visible.
2. All counties require a purchase document to purchase a handgun. It is North Carolina law.
3. Although legal, Open Carry is frowned on in North Carolina. It becomes illegal the moment ANYONE complains to the police that you are open carrying. The legal phrase is causing Affray and "going armed to the terror of the public". The moment someone is "terrfied", you have to put the gun away.
I was speaking from personal experience, some dated information some not. The county where I have property requires a purchase document, part of the the old Jim Crow laws, I do not know about the other counties. I have been going there for over 20 years, I know of no person that CCW's except those that are law enforcement or auxiliary law enforcement (another story). Everyone I know has a gun in the car and nobody has ever stated that they cannot. Including my many Law Enforcement buddies. Get pulled over and you had better let the officer know what you got and where however. It is sneaky they do not like, the gun does not bother them so much.

I have never seen a person open carry in North Carolina, why, because they do not feel the need it is a different society than ours. Can you, yes, but unless you are talking about one of the transplant areas like Rally, nobody would care and they would mind there business. Besides, if you were a problem they would be on the way to the truck for their gun. I think the points you are referring to are attempts by individuals to challenge the open carry laws, let me walk around with this to see what happens.

I was a Deputy Sheriff in Virginia back in the late 80's and early 90's. Purchase permits were a local thing, not state wide. Virginia was very strict about CCW, virtually nobody could get one. Probably why now they are a must issue state. But guns there were not a problem either. Chesapeake, where I worked required a document to purchase. It was simple, they had the first instanct background check. Type your name in thier database, get a ticket, buy a gun. Other cities did not have any requirement. It was common for people to go to other cites and just buy. Nothing needed to possess in your house. In the car the gun had to be either locked up or visible. Try to hide it and they got pissed. Again, I know a bunch of this has changed, Virginia issues a bunch more CCW permits now then when they did. It has been a while.

My last and only point, If you are relying on me to be your legal advisor, don't do it. Anybody that goes to another state and says that Willgrah said it was ok to put a loaded gun under my seat has other problems. Unless they get pulled over by one of my many LE friends in NC, my name ain't gonna do them any good.
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ligun said:
Some of what you say above are myths that get people in trouble.

1. A loaded gun under the seat of your car is NOT legal in North Carolina unless you have a concealed handgun permit! It must be openly visible.
2. All counties require a purchase document to purchase a handgun. It is North Carolina law.
3. Although legal, Open Carry is frowned on in North Carolina. It becomes illegal the moment ANYONE complains to the police that you are open carrying. The legal phrase is causing Affray and "going armed to the terror of the public". The moment someone is "terrfied", you have to put the gun away.
I was speaking from personal experience, some dated information some not. The county where I have property requires a purchase document, part of the the old Jim Crow laws, I do not know about the other counties. I have been going there for over 20 years, I know of no person that CCW's except those that are law enforcement or auxiliary law enforcement (another story). Everyone I know has a gun in the car and nobody has ever stated that they cannot. Including my many Law Enforcement buddies. Get pulled over and you had better let the officer know what you got and where however. It is sneaky they do not like, the gun does not bother them so much.

I have never seen a person open carry in North Carolina, why, because they do not feel the need it is a different society than ours. Can you, yes, but unless you are talking about one of the transplant areas like Rally, nobody would care and they would mind there business. Besides, if you were a problem they would be on the way to the truck for their gun. I think the points you are referring to are attempts by individuals to challenge the open carry laws, let me walk around with this to see what happens.

I was a Deputy Sheriff in Virginia back in the late 80's and early 90's. Purchase permits were a local thing, not state wide. Virginia was very strict about CCW, virtually nobody could get one. Probably why now they are a must issue state. But guns there were not a problem either. Chesapeake, where I worked required a document to purchase. It was simple, they had the first instanct background check. Type your name in thier database, get a ticket, buy a gun. Other cities did not have any requirement. It was common for people to go to other cites and just buy. Nothing needed to possess in your house. In the car the gun had to be either locked up or visible. Try to hide it and they got pissed. Again, I know a bunch of this has changed, Virginia issues a bunch more CCW permits now then when they did. It has been a while.

My last and only point, If you are relying on me to be your legal advisor, don't do it. Anybody that goes to another state and says that Willgrah said it was ok to put a loaded gun under my seat has other problems. Unless they get pulled over by one of my many LE friends in NC, my name ain't gonna do them any good.
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willgrah said:
Get pulled over and you had better let the officer know what you got and where however. It is sneaky they do not like, the gun does not bother them so much.
In North Carolina, if you have a gun, you better inform any Law Enforcement officer as soon as they approach or address you or you are committing an infraction.

I have never seen a person open carry in North Carolina, why, because they do not feel the need it is a different society than ours.
And I have seen several people open carry in North Carolina, in rural and mountain areas away from towns and cities. I have done it too (although on and around my own property). There are just too many wild animals (black bear, coyote, stray dogs, bobcat, rattlesnakes etc.) around my second home in NC.

I think the points you are referring to are attempts by individuals to challenge the open carry laws, let me walk around with this to see what happens.
I am talking about experience of people in my community in North Carolina who are not trying to challenge any laws but were told by the police to put the gun away because someone complained. They just forgot they still had the gun on their hip when they went to town.

I was a Deputy Sheriff in Virginia back in the late 80's and early 90's. Purchase permits were a local thing, not state wide. Virginia was very strict about CCW, virtually nobody could get one. Probably why now they are a must issue state. But guns there were not a problem either. Chesapeake, where I worked required a document to purchase. It was simple, they had the first instanct background check. Type your name in thier database, get a ticket, buy a gun. Other cities did not have any requirement. It was common for people to go to other cites and just buy.
The gun community in North Carolina is trying to get rid of the Purchase Document requirement but have not had much success. The North Carolina Sheriff's Association is one of the most powerful political organizations in North Carolina and they do not want to give this up. it is true that you do not need a license or permit to possess, but you do need a permit or purchase document to purchase in North Carolina.
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willgrah said:
Get pulled over and you had better let the officer know what you got and where however. It is sneaky they do not like, the gun does not bother them so much.
In North Carolina, if you have a gun, you better inform any Law Enforcement officer as soon as they approach or address you or you are committing an infraction.

I have never seen a person open carry in North Carolina, why, because they do not feel the need it is a different society than ours.
And I have seen several people open carry in North Carolina, in rural and mountain areas away from towns and cities. I have done it too (although on and around my own property). There are just too many wild animals (black bear, coyote, stray dogs, bobcat, rattlesnakes etc.) around my second home in NC.

I think the points you are referring to are attempts by individuals to challenge the open carry laws, let me walk around with this to see what happens.
I am talking about experience of people in my community in North Carolina who are not trying to challenge any laws but were told by the police to put the gun away because someone complained. They just forgot they still had the gun on their hip when they went to town.

I was a Deputy Sheriff in Virginia back in the late 80's and early 90's. Purchase permits were a local thing, not state wide. Virginia was very strict about CCW, virtually nobody could get one. Probably why now they are a must issue state. But guns there were not a problem either. Chesapeake, where I worked required a document to purchase. It was simple, they had the first instanct background check. Type your name in thier database, get a ticket, buy a gun. Other cities did not have any requirement. It was common for people to go to other cites and just buy.
The gun community in North Carolina is trying to get rid of the Purchase Document requirement but have not had much success. The North Carolina Sheriff's Association is one of the most powerful political organizations in North Carolina and they do not want to give this up. it is true that you do not need a license or permit to possess, but you do need a permit or purchase document to purchase in North Carolina.
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