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Nikon M-223 Point Blank Mounting Choice

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OK, I need opinions...(Did I really just ask for opinions?) I have a RRA Elite Car A4 Upper with a Tactical Carry Handle, built in Rear Sight and integrated picatinny rail. It also has an A2 FSB. I need to mount a Nikon M-223 1-4x20 RifleScope w/Point Blank Reticle. I have the Nikon 20 MOA Mount. Do I mount the Scope on the Tactical Carry Handle or do I take the Carry Handle off and mount directly to the flat top rail? What would you do?
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Personally I would go directly on the rail not ontop of the carry handle, but there are certainly more experienced members than me to give input.

I'm just anxious to hear how you like the scope... I'm looking at deciding between the Nikon and the Leupold AR scopes. My family has always been a Leupold family, but this Nikon is getting great reviews. Be sure to let us know what you think!
This is what the Tactical Carry Handle set-up looks like.
scope should go right on the flattop for a proper, consistent cheek weld
On the flat top. Remove the RS.
Thanks, I thought so, but i wasn't sure.
THE CLOSER TO THE BORE CENTER LINE THE BETTER
I agree with taking the handle off and mounting on the rail for better cheek weld.
Mounted the M223 1-4x 20mm directly to the top rail and finally got my Rock River Arms LAR-15 to the range today for its maiden voyage. First group on the sight-in target was way up top barely on paper (I didn't even bore sight it). Adjustment for elevation was made using my MOA 1/4 Sight in calculator based on number of clicks - group just right of center. Adjustment for windage made next - also based on number of "clicks" from the Sight-in calculator. Calculator made it pretty easy.
Calculator is here: http://www.longislandfirearms.com/forum/m-1323156488.84169/
BTW, this was with Summit Ammo 5.56 55Gr SP (SA-556-SP)
I just saw this thread- with the A2 FSB, isn't it directly in the FOV of the scope?
The layout of that upper seems silly to me, it's got a carry handle that's useless as a carry handle, and the "tactical carry handle" (which with a scope without see-thru is only good as a riser) doesn't look high enough for clearing the FS from the FOV? Am I missing something?
Captain Will said:
...with the A2 FSB, isn't it directly in the FOV of the scope?...
It is so close, the scope can't focus on it. It is pretty much invisible.
http://www.longislandfirearms.com/forum/m-1318344487.16054/s-1/
Captain Will said:
I just saw this thread- with the A2 FSB, isn't it directly in the FOV of the scope?
The layout of that upper seems silly to me, it's got a carry handle that's useless as a carry handle, and the "tactical carry handle" (which with a scope without see-thru is only good as a riser) doesn't look high enough for clearing the FS from the FOV? Am I missing something?
At 1x power, you see it very clearly in the scope. It starts to blur significantly at 2x, and by 4x, its totally invisible.
Great pics Walker. I think the Nikon M-223 1-4 Point Blank Reticle is going to do the trick for you just fine. Make sure you go to Nikonhunting.com and click the Spot On logo, register ( it's all free) and then you can see exactly what your bullet is doing once it leave the barrel. I love shooting steel with my 1-4 and when we go Coyote hunting it is my wife's favorite rifle to shoot.

http://i1216.photobucket.com/albums/dd363/bman940/KathyARPBR.jpg

Bart
Nikon Pro Staff
Go right to the flat top. take the carry handle off and use the Nikon mount that is made specifically for that scope. Here is my setup with the exact same scope.
bman940 said:
Great pics Walker. I think the Nikon M-223 1-4 Point Blank Reticle is going to do the trick for you just fine. Make sure you go to Nikonhunting.com and click the Spot On logo, register ( it's all free) and then you can see exactly what your bullet is doing once it leave the barrel. I love shooting steel with my 1-4 and when we go Coyote hunting it is my wife's favorite rifle to shoot.

http://i1216.photobucket.com/albums/dd363/bman940/KathyARPBR.jpg

Bart
Nikon Pro Staff
Nice setup. I really like that rifle. I was so pleased with the Nikon M223 that I bought another.

Good to see that we have vendors stopping by for advice.
Thanks guys, good to know on the scope and magnification issue.
Captain Will said:
Thanks guys, good to know on the scope and magnification issue.
Also check out thread.

http://www.longislandfirearms.com/forum/m-1306849438.39283/s-5/#num5
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