[JAMerolle]

Any recommendations for new york state conceal carry “ccw” 16 hour firearm safety training course? Something less than $400.

This guy will work with you. His email is Michael Cusumano [email protected]

 

[JAMerolle]

This will only expedite the elimination of the training. The training was the only thing left standing. They should have let well enough alone.

 

[JAMerolle]

How will this affect those who are signing up for training in the months to come?

The date you paid for the course should be the registered date on the certificate. Therefore, save your receipt with the date on it. If you paid for an upcoming course, ask the instructor to pre-date the certificate showing a registered date that is before the date of the new law set to go into effect and coincides with the date on your receipt. Having both a register date and a completion date lets SCPD know you committed to the course before the new law was put into motion.

For those thinking of taking the coursework (as written by Peconic Paladin) work with any one of the following instructors:

-certain military officers
--4H instructors
--DEC hunter safety instructors
--DCJS certified instructors (presumbaly they would become "duly authorized" immediately, rather than having to wait until July 2023 as is the case now.

 

[JAMerolle]

Word of caution and I am simply saying this because laws can be interpreted in different ways and I don’t want anyone to waste any money. Also this legislation has not yet passed and if passed the ultimate version could have carveouts (for example for individuals who have registered but not yet taken the course as of the effective date)

A reading of the current proposed legislation can conclude that after the effective date of the law all NRA Certified instructors cease to be duly authorized instructors under NYS Law. Therefore any course taught after this date is not being taught by a “duly authorized” instructor thereby making the certificate worthless.

The above is accurate regardless of when you sign up for the course. Backdating the certificates of completion with the date of registration instead of the date of completion for the course could be deemed a fraudulent document. If this is the case the instructor may have a problem with law enforcement and the licensee could be accused of submitting a false document which in turn will jeopardize you weapons license.

Thank you for the feedback, but I am advocating for two dates documented, the registration date and the completion date. There is nothing fraudulent, and moreover, it's a more accurate documentation of history. I conclude, please call SCPD to verify what should be done. I think SCPD is a fair group of professionals, not looking to sideline someone on technicalities.