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I think my title is better.
How does this guy become a Sheriff?
He makes Barney Fife look like Sheriff Joe from Arizona.

Sheriff cops 'sanctuary' defense in release of illegal immigrant suspect

SAN FRANCISCO SHERIFF ROSS MIRKARIMI DEFENDS his department's release two months ago of Francisco Sanchez - charged in the murder of Kate Steinle - an illegal immigrant deported five times and held on a drug-related warrant, but freed without notifying immigration officials when charges were dropped.

The murder of a young woman in San Francisco allegedly at the hands of an illegal immigrant has brought renewed scrutiny on the sheriff who released the defendant before the attack and has ardently backed policies making the city a "sanctuary" for undocumented immigrants.
Immigration and Customs Enforcement officials in March handed over defendant Francisco Sanchez on a drug-related warrant to the San Francisco Sheriff's Department.
However, the department released him several weeks later, after the charges were dropped, following a policy of not complying with federal requests to detain illegal immigrants for deportation.

"My long-held belief is that local law enforcement should not be in the civil immigration detainer business," San Francisco Sheriff Ross Mirkarimi said last year, after the policy was adopted.

Mirkarimi, a Democrat and former Green Party member, has argued since Sanchez allegedly shot to death 32-year-old Kate Steinle on July 1 that federal authorities should have issued a warrant or court order to hold Sanchez, who has seven prior convictions and has already been deported five times.
But this claim has been met with skepticism, given the circumstances. "He should have honored the immigration hold," immigration lawyer Francisco Hernandez told Fox News on Tuesday.

Mirkarimi, elected in 2011, is up for re-election in November. Now, Steinle's death, coupled with personal and departmental missteps, pose potential problems.

In 2012, the sheriff was suspended from office after being charged with domestic violence battery, child endangerment and dissuading a witness in connection with an altercation with his wife.
( I bet anyone with a pistol in his jurisdiction would have it confiscated and his licence suspended )
He pleaded guilty to one misdemeanor count of false imprisonment and was reinstated about seven months later, after the San Francisco Board of Supervisors failed to get enough votes to remove him from office.

Still, Mirkarimi, a former board member, was sentenced to three years of probation and had to stay away from his wife for seven months.
A two-week-long, sheriff department-led search in 2013 to find a missing hospital patient also came under criticism, despite Mirkarimi's apologies for the slow response. The female patient's body was eventually found inside the hospital by an employee.

Mirkarimi, meanwhile, has actively defended so-called "sanctuary city" policies that San Francisco and dozens of other cities and counties across the country follow -- they essentially limit local authorities in assisting federal officials on immigration and deportation cases.
San Francisco sheriff's deputies who opposed the policies reportedly were secretly helping federal authorities get illegal immigrants off the streets, until March when Mirkarimi issued a directive stating only he could turn them over to ICE.
"Being able to say, 'I'll call ICE for this guy, but not call ICE for that guy or that woman or not that woman,' that doesn't make any sense," Mirkarimi told a local CBS radio station on Monday, in defending his policy.
Mirkarimi has tried to push some of the blame on the feds in the aftermath of the killing on a popular city pier.
"If ICE does not provide the proper legal instrument, they are jeopardizing also the city's ability to detain somebody against their will," he said. "We need ICE to step up. … ICE knew that he had been deported five times.You would have thought [Sanchez] met a threshold that he required a court order or a warrant. They did not do that."
ICE, though, said it issues nearly 200,000 detainers a year and that getting a warrant for each one is impossible because the judicial system would collapse under that kind of volume.
What do you expect of a guy like this:
As a board supervisor from 2005 to 2011, Mirkarimi also proposed legislation to make San Francisco the first city in the country to sell marijuana. And he introduced legislation that ultimately made the city the first in the country to prohibit large supermarkets and drug stores from providing customers with non-biodegradable plastic bags.

Glad he has his priorities .
 

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Many places are trying to get illegal immigrants released while ICE has a hold on them. Suffolk Sheriff has already caved in and will not hold for ICE and Nassau will be next. I am not sure about NYC but most likely already don't hold for ICE. Don't know policy but if they have police contact and get arrested why should they not be held and deported or at least have a hearing in court about deportation..

Thursday, September 18, 2014
RIVERHEAD, N.Y. (WABC) --
Long Island sheriff's departments no longer will hold immigrants who are awaiting deportation in jail unless federal officials produce warrants from a judge.

The agency in Suffolk said in a memorandum last week it would not cooperate in the controversial Immigration and Customs Enforcement program called Secure Communities. Nassau curtailed its participation in June.

A typical ICE detainer lasts about 48 hours, but in recent years there have been some federal court rulings saying there is more of a request than a mandate.

So the Suffolk sheriff said if they continue with this policy, they are asking for civil rights lawsuits.

He said he had to do this to protect the taxpayers.

"You never know when someone is undocumented what could happen right? Anything could happen. So that for me is a big fear," said Amityville resident Luba Cortes.

Luba Cortes and her mother Clara are two of the thousands of undocumented people living on Long Island.

Luba says you always have this fear that if you get detained you would be held for days.

But a new policy in Suffolk County says that immigration officials must have a warrant from a judge in order to hold someone solely on an immigration violation.

"Laws are not a stagnant thing. The interpretation of them changes on case law. And based on the review by federal courts we felt like it was important to react to that," said Chief Michael Sharkey of the Suffolk County Sheriff's office.

"Today is a great day. It's a great day for all Suffolk County residents," said Daniel Altschuler of Make the Road New York, one of the groups which pushed for the change.

"What it means is that there's going to be greater trust between local law enforcement and communities here on Long Island because there will not be people who are afraid to report crimes and interact with police for fear they will get ensnared in the immigration enforcement process," said Altschuler.

A spokesman for ICE tells us these detainers are placed on individuals who have committed crimes and just releasing them into the community is dangerous.

The sheriff's office confirms there are 114 inmates in Suffolk County who are being held on an ICE detainer in addition to being charged with a crime.

Under this new policy, once their criminal cases are resolved they will be released.

"We will still make a notification to immigration and customs but we will not hold them beyond the time it takes to process them no," said Sharkey.

Immigration groups are also pushing for the same thing to happen in Nassau. Right now there is something in Nassau called an administrative warrant, meaning someone in ICE can sign off on the warrant.

They want a judge to have to do it as well.
 

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So Long Island sheriff's departments are no longer following the law?


So part of Suffolk county is now a "Sanctuary" county??
 

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Across the nation, local sheriff's offices in 250 counties have stopped honoring detainer requests from (ICE) officials because of constitutional, public safety, and economic concerns. After a spate of federal rulings earlier this year found that detainers were not mandatory, local officials increasingly have come to the conclusion that honoring detainer requests from Immigration and Customs Enforcement, which ask officers to hold people for 48 hours past when the person would have been released, are not worth the risk.
Sheriffs' departments in both Long Island counties have limited their detainer policies. Suffolk County, New York, joined the growing list of counties last week when the county sheriff's office announced it will stop holding immigrants for ICE agents unless federal officials have a judicial warrant. Neighboring Nassau County changed its detainer policy in June. "Laws are not a stagnant thing. The interpretation of them changes on case law. And based on the review by federal courts we felt like it was important to react to that," said Chief Michael Sharkey of the Suffolk County Sheriff's office.
Suffolk County Sheriff Vincent DeMarco told local reporters he decided to change the detainer policy as a "good government" measure that protects taxpayers from lawsuits. "I don't want to open up the county taxpayers to any liability," DeMarco said, according to Newsday. "The bottom line is, the worst criminals out there, like those who commit murder or other violent offenses, won't be let go by judges anyway." Last week, when the policy change was announced, DeMarco said 114 immigrants were being held at the county jail after being flagged by ICE for detention; they would be released unless a judicial warrant was issued to continue holding them.
Daniel Altschuler of Make the Road New York, an advocacy group that pushed for Suffolk County to limit ICE detainers, said the change will help public safety. "What it means is that there's going to be greater trust between local law enforcement and communities here on Long Island because there will not be people who are afraid to report crimes and interact with police for fear they will get ensnared in the immigration enforcement process," said Altschuler.
On the other side of the U.S. from New York, every county jail in Colorado has stopped holding immigrants at the request of ICE agents. This move makes Colorado the first state to have every county reject ICE detainers. "All sheriffs have agreed that they don't have the ability to deprive people of liberty, even for a few days, because they are suspected of being here illegally," said Mark Silverstein, legal director for the American Civil Liberties Union of Colorado. From October 2011 to August 2013, there were more than 8,700 detainer requests from ICE to Colorado jails.
Sheriffs across the country have many good reasons to limit their cooperation with ICE detainers. The steady increase in counties who are making those changes, however, underscores the need for federal reforms so that more local officials know what guidance to follow instead of having to interpret it on their own.- See more at: http://immigrationimpact.com/2014/09/22/why-250-counties-have-stopped-honoring-local-ice-detainers/#sthash.qo5R4xUp.dpuf
http://immigrationimpact.com/2014/09/22/why-250-counties-have-stopped-honoring-local-ice-detainers/

This stuff is amazing ............not in a good way
 

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So Long Island sheriff's departments are no longer following the law?


So part of Suffolk county is now a "Sanctuary" county??
Nassau County Police have been breaking the law for years.
Look at the vendettas by DA Rice using the police and the illegal wait time of the NCPD pistol bureau.
So why should Suffolk be different?
Probably some lawyer told them they can be sued for civil rights violations and they don't want the hassle.
Disgusting
 

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i can tell you for a fact that NY is a sanctuary city.i got on the NYPD in the 80's and was told specifically in the police academy and then by supervisors after getting out of the academy and on the streets do not ask any perps we arrested their immigration status..it was strictly forbidden..and if we did not obey that order you would be walking a midnight foot post in the PJ'S for the rest of your career...this is nothing new.
 

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i can tell you for a fact that NY is a sanctuary city.i got on the NYPD in the 80's and was told specifically in the police academy and then by supervisors after getting out of the academy and on the streets do not ask any perps we arrested their immigration status..it was strictly forbidden..and if we did not obey that order you would be walking a midnight foot post in the PJ'S for the rest of your career...this is nothing new.
But then it was kept quiet. It was unofficial.
Now they proclaim that we will not enforce immigration laws.
We tell illegal aliens they are safe to come here and break our laws. It's like a game, If you get past the limited border security we have your safe!
Nobody gave them driver's licenses and created special taxpayer funded agencies to help the illegal aliens while they were here.
I'd also guess that if a fed agency asked the NYPD to hold them back then they would.
 

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He sure has a purdy mouth..........................
 

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everything in the nypd is "unofficial"...summons quota's...unofficial..i don't know what you would call a police officer being told he didn't write enough summons for the month..and then when the dept started micro-managing it was you didn't write enough summon's for the day..back in the day the "unofficial" number was 25 traffic summon's a month broken up into mover's and Parker's. the ramification for not meeting that unofficial number....days off not approved no overtime given to you taken out of a patrol car and put on a foot post yadda yadda yadda,,the guys didn't care. when i was on the job we stuck together so they couldn't put everyone on a foot post..and if you did get that post the sgt. would come by and scratch your book every 15 minutes so you couldn't get out of the freezing weather and warm up..but alas the cop is smarter than the sgt..we would find an abandoned car which there were alot of them back then still with plates on them and voucher the plates which would take us off the street and into the warm station house until you finished. it was great when the sgt would come in and you would have a bag of chips and a coke and all your paperwork spread out and your duty jacket off and the 5 sweatshirts you wore taken off and looking nice and warm and comfortable...and believe me the job was filled with 3 year wonders who were good at taking sgt. tests and the like but could find a chin in a Chinese phonebook when it came to police work. had a sgt. one time take a rookie female cop as his steady driver because she was a bit of a looker meanwhile the guy with 19 yrs on the job at the time was standing a foot post freezing his butt off everyday. the guys were pissed and the sgt. was told that and he couldn't care less..everyday rookie girl warm old timer cold..so one midnight tour the sgt is screaming for help over the radio he is in the poop with a perp with his newly minted female driver, well lets just say we took our time getting there..he was pissed..he got the hint..no more female driver..actually old timer never walked a foot post again actually never left the station house again he was warm in the winter and cold in the summer until he retired..the sgt..well he took the biggest male driver he could find from that day on..
 

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Is it not a criminal offence to be an illegal criminal? How about the prior drug related charges where he's out on bail? This is the same Mayor that is fighting to keep citizens from being able to carry! He needs to be removed from office if he's going to take the stance that his department isn't in the civil detainment business. Crime is crime!!!
 
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I love Dana! She's one sharp lady.

All of us who wish to have our borders secured and bad guys thrown in prison for long sentences and then deported never to return because our borders are airtight unfortunately need some things to happen. Between now and Election Day there will need to be much more violent acts by illegal felons on our soil. Rapes, robberies and murders that name the news every other day to make up a good part of voters who are on the fence about immigration or even leaning to the liberal side of that fence. That and a pro American, secure our borders candidate taking office as well as keeping the House AND Senate. If not, Americas in grande, grande trouble.
 

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I love Dana! She's one sharp lady.

All of us who wish to have our borders secured and bad guys thrown in prison for long sentences and then deported never to return because our borders are airtight unfortunately need some things to happen. Between now and Election Day there will need to be much more violent acts by illegal felons on our soil. Rapes, robberies and murders that name the news every other day to make up a good part of voters who are on the fence about immigration or even leaning to the liberal side of that fence. That and a pro American, secure our borders candidate taking office as well as keeping the House AND Senate. If not, Americas in grande, grande trouble.
I guess America's in grande, grande trouble.
The bold part is going to be difficult enough, but the media does it's best to hide the race, nationality and especially if they're illegal, from their stories. they choose hat to empssis and what to even report.
There have been enough murders and rapes by illigal alien felons that were deported like it was a round way ticket and it's mostly ignored.
 
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