[Doc T]

No shooting BB guns or carrying a knife with a blade length of more then 3" in Suffolk County parks...

Law of Suffolk County - Section 378-4 Prohibited Acts...

"Carry a knife upon his person having a blade three inches or longer in length or bring in or discharge any fireworks, gun, rifle, shotgun, air gun, BB gun, bow and arrows or firearms, except in the case of police officers, the Sheriff, Deputy Sheriffs, park rangers, authorized park personnel or a person given express authorization."

Well that clears that next question up. %80 of my knives are illegal to carry in Parks. Time to start packing the ole trusty Buck....

 

[ten ring]

An airgun, whether a Pistol or Rifle is NOT a "FIREARM", in the outer fringe counties of Long Island. We are fortunately not living in Bloomberg City, New York.:damn "Doc"

 

[123]

Folks:
Here's the definition of "firearm," from 265.00.3 of the NYS Penal Code. The 500 foot prohibition also has an exception: if the discharge is with the owner's permission.
BB guns and pellet pistols are not considered firearms, in NYS, although I can, certainly, understand the source of the confusion. Now, since the NYS Penal Code is preemptive, counties, towns, etc., cannot redefine any of the terms or "re-regulate" any of the provisions. Some states, such as IL, do define BB guns and pellet guns, as firearms, requiring a firearms license, to possess.
Gary

Gary,

Thanks for the clarification. This is the part that drives me crazy. NYS law is preemptive. However, based on the town code sections I previously quoted, townships are quite obviously redefining and regulating things.

While it may be wrong, how many of us have the time and money to fight these things? If the town chooses to enforce their definitions and prohibitions, the several hundred dollar to several thousand dollar fine is nothing in comparison to the long and expensive legal battle necessary to correct the situation.

How do these municipalities get away with writing illegal codes and laws? (How does congress get away with writing unconstitutional laws)? Short of getting arrested/penalized and fighting it in court (where you may still lose), what can us regular folk do to get these illegal rules off the books?

 

[psydaddy]

Very timely thread. I bought my son a Ruger Air Hawk for Christmas. Here's a link to the laws / definitions in the Town of Smithtown.

http://gcp.esub.net/cgi-bin/om_isapi.dll?clientID=251620&infobase=sm0115.nfo&softpage=Browse_Frame_Pg42

Seems that while bb & pellet guns are considered firearms, they can be discharged legally in one's backyard.

Dov

 

[M14BULLETTS]

A while back I checked with the town of heampstead to see if there was any law against the discharge of a bb or pellit gun in the back yard. both nassau county pd and town of heampstead has no code of violation against it. but i am responsible for any damage caused by the miss use of the bb gun.

now for the rant if it does not have a suprresor or a barrel shroud it would be ok since it has a bayonet

 

[DanHS]

I've been shooting air rifles in my yard forever without any trouble. I looked it up in the town code and came up with nothing, not even anything pertaining to firearms and noise in Riverhead, though I did stumble across a new law added in Sept 08 that prohibits the sale of rifles or shotguns at yardsales in Riverhead, wth?

 

[Gary_Hungerford]

Gary,

Thanks for the clarification. This is the part that drives me crazy. NYS law is preemptive. However, based on the town code sections I previously quoted, townships are quite obviously redefining and regulating things.

While it may be wrong, how many of us have the time and money to fight these things? If the town chooses to enforce their definitions and prohibitions, the several hundred dollar to several thousand dollar fine is nothing in comparison to the long and expensive legal battle necessary to correct the situation.

How do these municipalities get away with writing illegal codes and laws? (How does congress get away with writing unconstitutional laws)? Short of getting arrested/penalized and fighting it in court (where you may still lose), what can us regular folk do to get these illegal rules off the books?

Joe:
Unfortunately, there is no other choice. You have to challenge them, in court, to void the illegal statute. While you're doing that, with your money, they're also using your tax money to defeat you and fight their side of the case.
Gary

 

[O1SalsaX]

A while back I checked with the town of heampstead to see if there was any law against the discharge of a bb or pellit gun in the back yard. both nassau county pd and town of heampstead has no code of violation against it. but i am responsible for any damage caused by the miss use of the bb gun.

now for the rant if it does not have a suprresor or a barrel shroud it would be ok since it has a bayonet

All it takes is one a$$hole neighbor that calls the cops saying you have a gun. :-/
I think it will ultimately depend on how your neighbors are with you.

As others have posted, I never had issues previously, but your experiences may differ greatly.

 

[mikeee]

the reason the slingshot is such a no no is when they built the office building across the nassau coliseum "EAB plaza" as soon as all the windows were installed they caught 5 kids with slingshots finishing off the last window the slingshot could reach causing millions in damages...

 

[NYram]

the reason the slingshot is such a no no is when they built the office building across the nassau coliseum "EAB plaza" as soon as all the windows were installed they caught 5 kids with slingshots finishing off the last window the slingshot could reach causing millions in damages...

they probably should ban rocks, sticks, bricks, bowling balls, bb guns, pellet guns, etc........
any object can be used a a projectile.

 

[O1SalsaX]

they probably should ban rocks, sticks, bricks, bowling balls, bb guns, pellet guns, etc........
any object can be used a a projectile.

SHHHHHHHHH!!!!!
Don't say that too loudly, it might happen.
We are in NY afterall. ;D

 

[cas]

a singshot is a Class A Misdemeanor; NYS Penal Law 265.01

A wrist brace sling shot is, yes.

You can't go by the penal laws use of "firearm" because rifles and shotguns don't even count. (Who wrote these screwed up laws?)

 

[PeepSight]

I remember as a kid going to the Hicksville train station at night to pick up my sister. Standing up on the platform you looked down upon the dumpster behind a restaurant that sat next to the station. It would be better than a tree stand picking off the rats that I would see. Unfortunately they would probably not appreciate someone carrying an air rifle up there.

 

[rvc-ny]

I'm so paranoid about the neighbors calling the police when my daughter shoots her Daisy bb gun on the side of our house ... I drag the patio umbrella over to keep her out of sight of the neighbors, then shoot along a side fence at cans in front of a backstop made of shipping blankets. It looks like I'm hiding from a drone strike, but so far so good. When I was a kid I'd spend hours in the backyard with a bb gun and no one noticed or cared!

 

[SOUTHSHOREROB]

It is legal in suffolk don't know about nassau - just don't damage anything in a neighbor's yard -

 

[Denny]

Very timely thread. I bought my son a Ruger Air Hawk for Christmas. Here's a link to the laws / definitions in the Town of Smithtown.

http://gcp.esub.net/cgi-bin/om_isapi.dll?clientID=251620&infobase=sm0115.nfo&softpage=Browse_Frame_Pg42

Seems that while bb & pellet guns are considered firearms, they can be discharged legally in one's backyard.

Dov

If I am reading this correctly, bb guns and pellet guns are illegal to discharge in Smithtown unless you are 500 feet from a dwelling and you get clearance from your neighbors.

FIREARM
Includes a weapon which acts by the force of gunpowder or from which a shot is discharged by the force of an explosion, as well as an air rifle, an air gun, a BB gun, a slingshot and a bow and arrow.[Amended 1-9-1990]
TOWN
Includes all areas within the Town of Smithtown, exclusive of areas wholly within any incorporated village.
§ 160-3. Purpose.
The purpose of this chapter is to prohibit any person from discharging a firearm in those areas of the Town of Smithtown in which such activity may be hazardous to the general public or nearby residents.

This is from Ch 160. Notice slingshots and bows are included.

All the best,
Dennis

 

[wreckhog]

There was an airgun store around exit 60 that had a range. If you had ever been there, you would wonder how they did it as their store was a house in a residential area and their range was the backyard. They had stuff that was as powerful as a 22 Short. This was a year ago. Must have been legal.

 

[The Architect]

There was an airgun store around exit 60 that had a range. If you had ever been there, you would wonder how they did it as their store was a house in a residential area and their range was the backyard. They had stuff that was as powerful as a 22 Short. This was a year ago. Must have been legal.

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http://www.longislandfirearms.com/forum/index.php?/topic/28976-Cobra-Airguns

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[PaPaBear]

It is legal in suffolk don't know about nassau - just don't damage anything in a neighbor's yard -

it is illegal to shoot any gun on long island unless you are at a gun range shooting a BB gun or a Pelt gun in your back yard can get you arrested and all your fire arms removed from the home if you are a pistol holder you will loss the right to have any pistols this is something that I have looked into many times if your going to shoot be care full not to be seen papabear

 

[mickeyblueyes]

I was at Suffolk licensing, was told illegal . Could be arrested for firearms discharge, putting your pistol license in jeopardy.

I doubt a Red Ryder is a issue, but my son has a pellet gun that shoots 1200 or 1600 feet a second. Now if your not careful that could put your eye out. It certainly would not kill you ,because .22 and 380 will not kill you.Other wise people would carry them for self defense. Yuk yuk yuk.