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Just a quick question for the LEOs in the city...
What is the legality of pepper spray purchased on long island (not mail order) in NYC?
The is just the typical stuff, not a Kimberly blaster or anything that is disguished as something else.
Standard keyring type pepper spray.

Any info is appreciated!

Thanks.
 

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I think, in NYC, anything that's actually effective at repelling an attack is banned. :pmsl

Seriously, I'm not aware that NYC has any special prohibitions on pepper spray beyond the state laws. You can only buy it in a gun store or pharmacy and I've never seen it in a pharmacy. You have to sign for it.
 

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Dont know. I bought my daughter some and when I was doing the purchase they wanted to see my PD ID.
 

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Sheeple dont need protection in NYC, its all Baaaaaad.

pocket knifes,bats, anything that could be used in self protection.....can be used to attack someone.
So like everything it is up to the LEO that sees it or stops you. More than likely, In NYC if it works, you cant have it.

PS. bear spray has a bit more heat, CN works. a .45 will be faster.
 

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Folks:
Section 265.14, re pepper spray follows. Since Sections of 265 and 400 of the Penal Code are preemptive, NYC cannot write its own laws, on this subject.
Gary
14. Possession in accordance with the provisions of this paragraph of a self- defense spray device as defined herein for the protection of a person or property and use of such self-defense spray device under circumstances which would justify the use of physical force pursuant to article thirty-five of this chapter.

(a) As used in this section "self-defense spray device" shall mean a pocket sized spray device which contains and releases a chemical or organic substance which is intended to produce temporary physical discomfort or disability through being vaporized or otherwise dispensed in the air or any like device containing tear gas, pepper or similar disabling agent.

(b) The exemption under this paragraph shall not apply to a person who:

(i) is less than eighteen years of age; or

(ii) has been previously convicted in this state of a felony or any assault; or

(iii) has been convicted of a crime outside the state of New York which if committed in New York would constitute a felony or any assault crime.

(c) The department of health, with the cooperation of the division of criminal justice services and the superintendent of state police, shall develop standards and promulgate regulations regarding the type of self-defense spray device which may lawfully be purchased, possessed and used pursuant to this paragraph. The regulations shall include a requirement that every self-defense spray device which may be lawfully purchased, possessed or used pursuant to this paragraph have a label which states: "WARNING: The use of this substance or device for any purpose other than self-defense is a criminal offense under the law. The contents are dangerous - use with care. This device shall not be sold by anyone other than a licensed or authorized dealer. Possession of this device by any person under the age of eighteen or by anyone who has been convicted of a felony or assault is illegal. Violators may be prosecuted under the law."

15. Possession and sale of a self-defense spray device as defined in paragraph fourteen of this subdivision by a dealer in firearms licensed pursuant to section 400.00 of this chapter, a pharmacist licensed pursuant to article one hundred thirty-seven of the education law or by such other vendor as may be authorized and approved by the superintendent of state police.

(a) Every self-defense spray device shall be accompanied by an insert or inserts which include directions for use, first aid information, safety and storage information and which shall also contain a toll free telephone number for the purpose of allowing any purchaser to call and receive additional information regarding the availability of local courses in self-defense training and safety in the use of a self-defense spray device.

(b) Before delivering a self-defense spray device to any person, the licensed or authorized dealer shall require proof of age and a sworn statement on a form approved by the superintendent of state police that such person has not been convicted of a felony or any crime involving an assault. Such forms shall be forwarded to the division of state police at such intervals as directed by the superintendent of state police. Absent any such direction the forms shall be maintained on the premises of the vendor and shall be open at all reasonable hours for inspection by any peace officer or police officer, acting pursuant to his or her special duties. No more than two self-defense spray devices may be sold at any one time to a single purchaser.
 

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I think i'd have switched over to a can of brake cleaner if they said "no" to the pepper spray.

One never knows when they'd need to clean their brakes....

Paul
 

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lynyrd said:
I think i'd have switched over to a can of brake cleaner if they said "no" to the pepper spray.

One never knows when they'd need to clean their brakes....

Paul
Its all good till you use it. Heck, in the city you may be jailed for global warming.
 

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FatWhiteMan said:
What is a "random bag check?"
FWM... Pretty much anywhere in the city after 9/11 they've taken away your rights of search and seizure if you carry a back pack or bags... Just another example of how the terrorist are winning and people's rights are violated in the name of safety
 

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FULL METAL JACKET said:
FWM... Pretty much anywhere in the city after 9/11 they've taken away your rights of search and seizure if you carry a back pack or bags... Just another example of how the terrorist are winning and people's rights are violated in the name of safety
Isn't there another thread about a lawsuit for stop and frisk where the defenders say that NYC cops only do this to those suspected of a crime and that they are not random?
 

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...My wife was just hassled recently in the city, at the WTC memorial. They gave her a lot of crap, threatened her with arrest, but in the end did nothing. They didn't even confiscate her spray.

She came home all upset "why didn't you tell me it's illegal?"

"Uh, it is NOT illegal"

Good idea for anyone carrying CS spray to print Gary's post and keep it in your purse/glovebox/wallet...
 

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FULL METAL JACKET said:
FWM... Pretty much anywhere in the city after 9/11 they've taken away your rights of search and seizure if you carry a back pack or bags... Just another example of how the terrorist are winning and people's rights are violated in the name of safety
pretty much anywhere in NYC Transit were allowed by law and trust me when I tell ya the PD is covered Want to know why?? Transit is private property. And most cops that are there are ordered to be there after or before their tour. Depending on the boss is what is going to determkne the outcome of anyone that has any OC spray. If you dont like it dont take the trains. People are going to cry if you do something or cry if you dont!
 

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FatWhiteMan said:
Isn't there another thread about a lawsuit for stop and frisk where the defenders say that NYC cops only do this to those suspected of a crime and that they are not random?
Yea but stop and frisk is different... This is kinda focused on backpacks and the possibility of people carrying dirty bombs, bombs, etc... Stop n frisk is just for suspicious persons, regardless if they have a backpack or not...

Btw Nesrok: I'm not knocking you guys doing your job, if anything, I'm knocking the need for it at all... 9/11 changed our world forever
 

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FULL METAL JACKET said:
Yea but stop and frisk is different... This is kinda focused on backpacks and the possibility of people carrying dirty bombs, bombs, etc... Stop n frisk is just for suspicious persons, regardless if they have a backpack or not...

Btw Nesrok: I'm not knocking you guys doing your job, if anything, I'm knocking the need for it at all... 9/11 changed our world forever
Non taken brother! I just try to make sense of it just like the rest of us. When im stuck after my midnight tour for four hours we try and make the best of it for both us and everyone else. Fo some take it to a level they shouldnt? Absoloutly! I feel bad your wife was treated like that. Those cops shouldve known better. You know whos a perp and who isnt.
 

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I do better than that. Not only do I not go on to the rat infested crime ridden trains.....  I don't like the city so I don't go there.  Pretty soon you'll need a passport to get into that rat hole.
 

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NESROK said:
... Want to know why?? Transit is private property. ...
How is the MTA private property, and why does that matter?
 

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I do better than that. Not only do I not go on to the rat infested crime ridden trains..... I don't like the city so I don't go there. Pretty soon you'll need a passport to get into that rat hole.
My take on it as well... Only go there to visit my wife's doctor... Other than that, I have no use for it
 

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If MTA is private property, then anyone who owns & registers a motor vehicle is an owner of that property, and not subject to search as 'guests' or 'trespassers'   Due to the fact that we have all PAID FOR the property, with every registraions "MTA TAX"
 
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