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One would think some new laws about drugs, and gangs and manditory sentincing guidelines would cut down on the 99% of urban shootings.
O ya, that would put more utes in jail........we cant have that.

lets disarm the taxpaying fools that will not have a protection detail with them like the lawmakers or, god forbid, dont do anything about the Black Panthers that put a bounty on a guy for 10 grand................ya, that seems fair.
 

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hydtguy said:
One would think some new laws about drugs, and gangs and manditory sentincing guidelines would cut down on the 99% of urban shootings.
O ya, that would put more utes in jail........we cant have that.

lets disarm the taxpaying fools that will not have a protection detail with them like the lawmakers or, god forbid, dont do anything about the Black Panthers that put a bounty on a guy for 10 grand................ya, that seems fair.
If by "new laws about drugs" you mean "abolishing prohibition", you're right.

No prohibition=no black market=no source of money for gangs=no incentive for gang activity=no gang violence=drastically reduced crime across the board.
 

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Mr. Schneiderman,

Legalizing drugs is not the solution, it would produce a nation of individuals even more dependent on the system. Something what CA has is much more appropriate, I think they call it three strike law or something.

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If by "new laws about drugs" you mean "abolishing prohibition", you're right.

No prohibition=no black market=no source of money for gangs=no incentive for gang activity=no gang violence=drastically reduced crime across the board.
 

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Mr. Schneiderman,

Legalizing drugs is not the solution, it would produce a nation of individuals even more dependent on the system. Something what CA has is much more appropriate, I think they call it three strike law or something.
The jails are full of non violent drug offenders, also putting a drain on the system... Just sayin
 

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Mr. Schneiderman,

Legalizing drugs is not the solution, it would produce a nation of individuals even more dependent on the system. Something what CA has is much more appropriate, I think they call it three strike law or something.
An interesting and perhaps daring position to take on a gun board. I mean, one generally sees the meme of "no more nanny state" on such a board. It's unusual to see someone advocating laws on the principle that folks can't be trusted to take care of themselves (or suffer the consequences when they don't).
 

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I would not consider my proposition "daring" at all, I think it to be "realistic". Taking into consideration how much of a "nanny state" this country already is, it is not a far fetched idea that drug addicts would be considered "ill" or "sick" and medical treatment and/or rehabilitation centers would be provided on a state/federal dollar (read: yours and mine). It would not be the addicts that pay the price, it would be you and me. I would much rather pay the price AND keep them off the streets and in jails.

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(or suffer the consequences when they don't).
 

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[quote name='Lemming']

An interesting and perhaps daring position to take on a gun board. I mean, one generally sees the meme of "no more nanny state" on such a board. It's unusual to see someone advocating laws on the principle that folks can't be trusted to take care of themselves (or suffer the consequences when they don't).[/quote=]

+1 Agreed The government has no right telling me what to eat, drink, smoke, ect... as long as Im not hurting or forcing myself upon others.
 

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Lemming said:
An interesting and perhaps daring position to take on a gun board. I mean, one generally sees the meme of "no more nanny state" on such a board. It's unusual to see someone advocating laws on the principle that folks can't be trusted to take care of themselves (or suffer the consequences when they don't).[/quote=]

+1 Agreed The government has no right telling me what to eat, drink, smoke, ect... as long as Im not hurting or forcing myself upon others.
Let me also point out, one doesn't have to be "pro-other peoples' vices" to be "anti vice-control". As to drugs, it appears we have hordes of people in jail (getting 3 hots and a cot from our taxes, let us not forget) and yet there are plenty of addicts. Mexican drug cartels are rich and violent. Whatever we're doing, it doesn't seem to be working.
 

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FULL METAL JACKET said:
The jails are full of non violent drug offenders, also putting a drain on the system... Just sayin
Caulkins & Sevigny (2005) found that the percentage of people in prison for marijuana use is less than one half of one percent (0.1-0.2 percent). I don't believe that there's many people in jail for pot use or simple drug use that's false, my aunt is a Suffolk county narc and arrest heroin users and sellers and judge let's them walk with 30 day drug program then the get out and are rite back getting high laughing at the system. Legalization isn't the anwser. Gambling is legal and there's still a huge underground gambling problem in America we all know someone who has a bookie and bets so rite there is an example is legalization giving the false pretense that it will solve criminal enterprise or activity.
 

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PinkPoodle said:
Mr. Schneiderman,

Legalizing drugs is not the solution, it would produce a nation of individuals even more dependent on the system. Something what CA has is much more appropriate, I think they call it three strike law or something.
Yeah, and Cali is broke. Check out LEAP. Law Enforcement Against Prohibition. If heroin was legalized how many people would run out and use it? Not me. I get no kick from cocaine. If heroin addicts could buy their stuff like nicotine addicts do now they would have to get up and go to work like the rest of us. They spend all day breaking into houses selling $1000 TVs for $50 so they can get high.

Wealthy addicts work.
 

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Caulkins & Sevigny (2005) found that the percentage of people in prison for marijuana use is less than one half of one percent (0.1-0.2 percent). I don't believe that there's many people in jail for pot use or simple drug use that's false, my aunt is a Suffolk county narc and arrest heroin users and sellers and judge let's them walk with 30 day drug program then the get out and are rite back getting high laughing at the system. Legalization isn't the anwser. Gambling is legal and there's still a huge underground gambling problem in America we all know someone who has a bookie and bets so rite there is an example is legalization giving the false pretense that it will solve criminal enterprise or activity.
1/2 a percent is still a ton of people and money nation wide... Also, sports gambling is NOT legal at all in NYS. Maybe other, but not here...
Ps I'm not advocating anything.
 

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From Trayvon to Clapton ... Clearly a logical leap lol

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