May I ask, since the introduction of the CCIA, have the licensing authorities within NYS, notified legacy permit holders of the CCIA and its implications? Or, are you supposed to have found out on your own?
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Was hoping to start a thread where everyone can post stores that have lawful carry.
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Since the Safe Act, all those licensees with a lifetime pistol license are revoked if they did not re-certify with the State Police. The County Pistol License Office does not send mail to lifetime license holders to inform them of the new law.May I ask, since the introduction of the CCIA, have the licensing authorities within NYS, notified legacy permit holders of the CCIA and its implications? Or, are you supposed to have found out on your own?
Since the CCIA, no letters were sent via mail to inform a licensee they will be charged with a Felony going to a Restricted or Sensitive location.
Their is nothing in the law that will exempt a licensee for not knowing the new law… you are on your own!
Thanks Boosting, I see this, as beneficial to any legit permit holder, should they take a collar for violating the CCIA. The states failure to notify its permit holders of this MAJOR change in the rules will surely affect any court case, IMO.Since the Safe Act, all those licensees with a lifetime pistol license are revoked if they did not re-certify with the State Police. The County Pistol License Office does not send mail to lifetime license holders to inform them of the new law.
Since the CCIA, no letters were sent via mail to inform a licensee they will be charged with a Felony going to a Restricted or Sensitive location.
Their is nothing in the law that will exempt a licensee for not knowing the new law… you are on your own!
You get stopped for a traffic infraction, civil or criminal you should know better. After all you took a test and signed on the dotted line. DMV would notify motorists when there were changes, even if it were during renewal process. Same rules should apply to permit holders. They shouldn’t have to rely on the news media. Again in MO.
There was a DGU at an upstate Applebees in which a licensed gun owner brandished his handgun to stop an attack. AFAIK he has not been charged, only the bad guy was.In Sullivan County, a guy was going to stores and sticking those green signs.
As taught in the 18 hour class. If alcoholic beverages are served at any restaurant, it is a sensitive location under the CCIA.
One store is next to a U.S. Post Office, they have the sign allowing concealed carry. Federal property even in parking areas forbids a firearm.
A sign is not necessary, if you have verbal permission.
On private property, if the owner is present no signage is required. During the hunting season on my land one of the hunters bought a green colored sign just to be safe.A sign is not necessary, if you have verbal permission.
That was kept quiet. I am sure those who know the real story will eventually tell what happened.There was a DGU at an upstate Applebees in which a licensed gun owner brandished his handgun to stop an attack. AFAIK he has not been charged, only the bad guy was.
Present or not, express permission, is express permission. To the best of my knowledge, lol, now I have to go look, there is no verbage in the law that spells out that, the owner must be present… not looking to argue, but also don’t want to just intimidate people into NYSs idea of compliance.
There are a few mom and pop businesses, in my little town, that do not sell or serve alcohol, that will not put up that sign, for insurance and liability reasons, but allow carry.
There are a few mom and pop businesses, in my little town, that do not sell or serve alcohol, that will not put up that sign, for insurance and liability reasons, but allow carry.
I asked the guy in the bait and tackle store the other day if concealed carry was permissible. His response was we're ok with it, but no sign. My spidy senses tell me most places don't really care, but don't want to advertise it. I'm sure a concealed carry welcome sign in most businesses would trigger some complaints.
The Governor was clear in her speech that Businesses must have a “Guns Are Welcome Sign!”….This is New York, not only will the liberal anti gun people cancel the business, an Insurance Company will cancel the policy.I asked the guy in the bait and tackle store the other day if concealed carry was permissible. His response was we're ok with it, but no sign. My spidy senses tell me most places don't really care, but don't want to advertise it. I'm sure a concealed carry welcome sign in most businesses would trigger some complaints.
Its interesting to me, some people on this site claim to be law abiding gun owners. Then come on a public website toting how they are ignoring certain the laws. That's not how this works. LOL... It cracks me up.
When the Governor thumbs her nose at the Supreme Court, The Constitution and the Bill of Rights, regarding a protected civil right, law abiding citizens are right in exercising civil disobedience. When a law is unjust and unconstitutional, as this clearly is, the law may have to be ignored.Its interesting to me, some people on this site claim to be law abiding gun owners. Then come on a public website toting how they are ignoring certain the laws. That's not how this works. LOL... It cracks me up.
In my defense, I have never claimed to be a law-abiding gun owner.Its interesting to me, some people on this site claim to be law abiding gun owners. Then come on a public website toting how they are ignoring certain the laws. That's not how this works. LOL... It cracks me up.
In defense of others, "law-abiding" means obeying the real laws, not the fake ones.
Actually that IS how it works. As the Biden administration has taught us, you can just ignore laws you don't agree with. Last time I looked we had laws about legal orderly immigration and they don't seem to apply.Then come on a public website toting how they are ignoring certain the laws. That's not how this works. LOL... It cracks me up.
During the AWB and before Safe Act. You had a gray area, gun shops were selling high capacity AR and Glock magazines that were possibly post 2004 manufactured. One of my colleagues made an arrest. The Glock pistol was a Third Gen model which was sold with 10 round magazines in New York. The issue was the Glock pistol was post ban and the magazine was possibly made after 2004. A call to the Glock rep, he claims that they produced that style magazine body prior to the Federal Assault Weapon ban in 09/94 and had many bins of these magazines to use when the AWB expired. If this guy was arrested during the Anti Gun DA, you better believe he was getting a charge.In my defense, I have never claimed to be a law-abiding gun owner.
In defense of others, "law-abiding" means obeying the real laws, not the fake ones.
Oh absolutely. Glock mags, if you knew what to look for, what pretty easy to tell what was pre and post 2004. But you really had to know. Other companies even less so. Sounds like the Glock rep did a good job and knew what he was talking about.During the AWB and before Safe Act. You had a gray area, gun shops were selling high capacity AR and Glock magazines that were possibly post 2004 manufactured. One of my colleagues made an arrest. The Glock pistol was a Third Gen model which was sold with 10 round magazines in New York. The issue was the Glock pistol was post ban and the magazine was possibly made after 2004. A call to the Glock rep, he claims that they produced that style magazine body prior to the Federal Assault Weapon ban in 09/94 and had many bins of these magazines to use when the AWB expired. If this guy was arrested during the Anti Gun DA, you better believe he was getting a charge.
They are ignoring the laws the Supreme Court has said are unconstitutional. The New York State Legislature and Governor are the ones breaking the law. Many members of the legislature and law enforcement know the governor is violating federal law. Pistol license holders ARE some of the most law abiding citizens in the state but at some point they become unwilling to follow in the footsteps of a corrupt governor and her minions.Its interesting to me, some people on this site claim to be law abiding gun owners. Then come on a public website toting how they are ignoring certain the laws. That's not how this works. LOL... It cracks me up.
i concur with civil disobedience
A) Subject to exemptions for certain individuals, you can only enter another person’s property with a firearm, rifle, or shotgun when the owner or lessee has specifically posted that it allowed, or the owner or lessee has expressly consented. Consent to Issued August 27, 2022 carry must be reflected by clear and conspicuous signage or express verbal consent from the owner or lessee. (Penal Law § 265.01-d)Any restaurant that serves alcoholic beverages is a sensitive location. Any private business/property requires a sign that allows firearms.
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