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Cops arrest dad after daughter draws gun picture

http://www.thespec.com/news/ontario/article/676401--cops-arrest-dad-after-daughter-draws-gun-picture

KITCHENER - A Kitchener father is upset that police arrested him at his children's' school Wednesday, hauled him down to the station and strip-searched him, all because his four-year-old daughter drew a picture of a gun at school.

"I'm picking up my kids and then, next thing you know, I'm locked up," Jessie Sansone, 26, said Thursday.

"I was in shock. This is completely insane. My daughter drew a gun on a piece of paper at school."

The school principal, police and child welfare officials, however, all stand by their actions. They said they had to investigate to determine whether there was a gun in Sansone's house that children had access to.

"From a public safety point of view, any child drawing a picture of guns and saying there's guns in a home would warrant some further conversation with the parents and child," said Alison Scott, executive director of Family and Children's Services.

Waterloo Regional Police Insp. Kevin Thaler said there was a complaint from Forest Hills public school that "a firearm was in a residence and children had access to it. We had every concern, based on this information, that children were in danger."

Their concern wasn't based on the drawing alone, he said.

Neaveh, the child who made the drawing, also made comments about it that raised more flags.

Sansone thinks police overreacted. He didn't find out until hours after his arrest what had actually sparked the incident.

He said he went to the school Wednesday afternoon to pick up his three children. He was summoned to the principal's office where three police officers were waiting. They said he was being charged with possession of a firearm.

He was escorted from the school, handcuffed and put in the back of a cruiser.

At the same time, other police officers went to his home, where his wife and 15-month-old child were waiting for his return.

They made his wife come to the police station while the other three children were taken to Family and Children's Services to be interviewed.

"Nobody was given any explanation," said his wife, Stephanie Squires. "I didn't know why he was being arrested.

"He had absolutely no idea what this was even about. I just kept telling them. 'You're making a mistake.' "

At the police station, Sansone talked to a lawyer who said only that he was being charged with possession of a firearm, Sansone said.

He kept asking questions. He was given a blanket and told he would appear before a judge in the morning to post bail.

"I was getting pretty scared at that point," Sansone said. "It seemed like I was actually being charged at this point."

He was forced to remove his clothes for a full strip search.

Several hours later, a detective apologized and said he was being released with no charges, Sansone said.

The detective told him that his four-year-old daughter had drawn a picture of a man holding a gun. When a teacher asked her who the man was, the girl replied, "That's my daddy's. He uses it to shoot bad guys and monsters."

"To be honest with you, I broke down," Sansone said. "My character got put down so much. I was actually really hurt, like it could happen that easy.

"How do you recognize a criminal from a father?''

He said he thought he had good relations with the principal who offered him a job last year counselling students at the school.

"We're educated,'' he said. "I'm a certified PSW (personal support worker) and a life issues counsellor. I go into schools to try to make a difference.''

After he was released, Sansone was asked to sign a paper authorizing a search of his home. He signed, even though he didn't have to, he said.

"I just think they blew it out of proportion,'' Squires said. "It was for absolutely nothing. They searched our house upside down and found nothing. They had the assumption he owned a firearm.

"The way everything happened was completely unnecessary, especially since we know the school very well. I don't understand how they came to that conclusion from a four-year-old's drawing.''

Scott, of Family and Children's Services, said the agency was obligated to investigate after getting a report from the school.

"Our community would have an expectation if comments are made about a gun in a house, we'd be obligated to investigate that to ensure everything is safe."

If there's a potential crime that's been committed, the agency must call in police, she said

"In the end, it may not be substantiated. There may be a reasonable explanation for why the child drew that gun. But we have to go on what gets presented to us.

"I'm sure this was a very stressful thing for the family," she acknowledged.

The school principal, Steve Zack, said a staff member called child welfare officials because the law requires them to report anything involving the safety or neglect of a child.

The agency chose to involve police, he said.

"Police chose to arrest Jessie here. Nobody wants something like this to happen at any time, especially not at school. But that's out of my hands."

Sansone says he got into some trouble with the law five years ago, and was convicted of assault and attempted burglary. But he's put all that behind him. He never had any firearms-related charges.

As for the strip search, Thaler said it was done "for officer safety, because it's a firearms-related incident.

"At the point in the investigation when it was determined it was not a real firearm, the individual was released unconditionally," he said.
 

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........ isolated incident , things are actually a little better up there now.
 

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Still, that's just creepy. The worst part, is that in the name of the children's safety, they probably traumatized the children and left them terrified of their family suddenly getting taken away again for something they did that they don't even understand. It's thoroughly disgusting and sickening.
 

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if obama wins again this will be much more common
 

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My 4 year old draws Darth Vader with Light Sabers, what would they charge me with in Canada?
 

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I thought guns were commonplace in Canada? Still, it's the breakdown of the family, and the State as the caregiver. Progressive agenda.
 

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Three words of advice for him: Police Complaints Commission. He has a massive harassment case if he wants it. I would stand for nothing less than a formal apology in front of the whole school.

I hate to say it, I love Canada, but the WORST PEOPLE are the various "Childrens and Family Services" workers. Maniacally righteous and, in my opinion, mentally damaged. I could share with you several examples but it is Friday and I want to relax.
 

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Canada outside of Quebec and parts of Ontario and British Columbia is actually quite conservative. Some of the western/central provinces like Alberta are practically as conservative as Texas or South Carolina. Their conservative PM Stephen Harper seems like he stepped out of the 1950s ... Canada took a big turn to the right once they got rid of the clowns like Trudeau and Chretien. Quite a bit of the Trudeau era policies have been overturned - symbols of the monarchy are back, support for becoming a republic is at an all time low, the Quebec independence movement is dead, the Canadian military is a proud military force once again, etc. Things are looking good in the Realm of Canada :)
 

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I suspect there's more to this story.
 

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Kind of sounds more like nazi Germany in 1938, seig heil Canada!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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This from Canada.
You're going to have a tough time believing this one.

On Wednesday, Sansone arrived at his children's' school to pick them up. He was asked to step inside and meet with the principal. In the principal's office, Sansone was met by three Waterloo Regional Police officers and immediately arrested.
He was taken to a nearby station, strip searched and locked in a cell. His wife was also summoned to the station, and their children taken by Family and Children's Services.
At no point were they told why this was happening. It was not until officers had told Sansone that he'd be held in custody overnight before a bail hearing in the morning that his lawyer was finally able to tell Sansone that he had been arrested for possession of a firearm.
..........the entire sequence of events had been set in motion because a teacher at the school became alarmed when his four-year-old daughter drew a gun and said the picture was of her father.
The teacher then notified Family Services, who decided that the police needed to be involved, telling the police that they had reason to believe that there was a gun in Sansone's home that his children had access to. That is what led Waterloo's finest to bust Sansone in front of the entire school, strip him naked, confine him in a cell, bring his wife to a police station and take away their children.

http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2012/02/24/matt-gurney-police-arrest-and-stripsearch-innocent-man-after-child-doodles-a-gun/
 

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I thought guns were commonplace in Canada? Still, it's the breakdown of the family, and the State as the caregiver. Progressive agenda.
You won't be able to recognize this country in two generations. The antis are taking a page from Sun Tzu and waiting patiently while taking another page from the dictators handbook and reprogramming the children.
 

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My son's friend drew an alien with a blaster at school during drawing time, and he teacher made him tear it up and draw something else, this occurred at Pulaski Road School in East NPT.
 

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vote obama 2012 and that will be us, 10 months away 2nd A is in the hands of every gun owner or hunter. So just how important are your gun rights to you?
 

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Man, I drew guns in school, starting in first grade (we made a book I still have featuring one) I'm glad my old man didnt get arrested. Guess my dads a bad guy. Eh?
 

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Coming soon to a neighborhood near you. All we need for this to happen is more gun owner apathy. Why do you think some of us (Not enough) spend so much time in meetings etc. fighting this type of thinking?
 
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