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"Regulating concealed firearms is an essential part of Yolo County's efforts to maintain public safety and prevent both gun-related crime and, most importantly, the death of its citizens."

The logic is impeccable! They want to regulate the public's rights to carry concealed firearms to maintain "public safety", as if properly background checked and trained people get the permits in order to commit crimes! Why are they always so focused on the public instead of the CRIMINALS? If you want to prevent the "death of its citizens" get the criminals off the streets!


"...Yolo County's policy is more than rationally related to these legitimate government goals," England wrote.

Don't you just love the way "rationalize" everything? They also forget what "...legitimate government goals..." are, and fail to understand that the government's job is not to protect every individual citizen, it cannot do that short of locking EVERYONE in a padded cell!

More activist judges, legislating from the bench. A pox upon their house!
 

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Putin, the new Ceasar. Veni,Vidi, Vici!
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"Regulating concealed firearms is an essential part of Yolo County's efforts to maintain public safety and prevent both gun-related crime and, most importantly, the death of its citizens."

The logic is impeccable! They want to regulate the public's rights to carry concealed firearms to maintain "public safety", as if properly background checked and trained people get the permits in order to commit crimes! Why are they always so focused on the public instead of the CRIMINALS? If you want to prevent the "death of its citizens" get the criminals off the streets!


"...Yolo County's policy is more than rationally related to these legitimate government goals," England wrote.

Don't you just love the way "rationalize" everything? They also forget what "...legitimate government goals..." are, and fail to understand that the government's job is not to protect every individual citizen, it cannot do that short of locking EVERYONE in a padded cell!

More activist judges, legislating from the bench. A pox upon their house!
 

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This case may effect the Westchester suit.I believe Good Cause was the basis of the suit.The Sheriff does issue concealed carry to civilians who have proper cause.The judge determined that you must meet requirements similar to NY law.
 

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This case may effect the Westchester suit.I believe Good Cause was the basis of the suit.The Sheriff does issue concealed carry to civilians who have proper cause.The judge determined that you must meet requirements similar to NY law.
 

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Zyka said:
This case may effect the Westchester suit.I believe Good Cause was the basis of the suit.The Sheriff does issue concealed carry to civilians who have proper cause.The judge determined that you must meet requirements similar to NY law.
It may or may not. A ruling in one Federal District does not necessarily mean it will be the same in another. Best thing that can happen is two different rulings. That would insure a trip to SCOTUS to settle it. There may be differences in the California law that we are not familiar with also. NY does NOT spell out 'proper cause' and is totally discretionary as to what proper cause is. I don;t know if Calif does the same or if they spell it out.
One thing I;ve learned a long time ago dealing with different federal districts....they don;t necessarily follow each other in decisions and above all, you can't second guess 'em.
 

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Zyka said:
This case may effect the Westchester suit.I believe Good Cause was the basis of the suit.The Sheriff does issue concealed carry to civilians who have proper cause.The judge determined that you must meet requirements similar to NY law.
It may or may not. A ruling in one Federal District does not necessarily mean it will be the same in another. Best thing that can happen is two different rulings. That would insure a trip to SCOTUS to settle it. There may be differences in the California law that we are not familiar with also. NY does NOT spell out 'proper cause' and is totally discretionary as to what proper cause is. I don;t know if Calif does the same or if they spell it out.
One thing I;ve learned a long time ago dealing with different federal districts....they don;t necessarily follow each other in decisions and above all, you can't second guess 'em.
 

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CommackBoy said:
I agree. There is very little difference between CA and NY. Gotta move away from coasts.
The majority of the population in both states are not going to side with the pro-gun movement.Most have negative opinions of gun owners.
 

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CommackBoy said:
I agree. There is very little difference between CA and NY. Gotta move away from coasts.
The majority of the population in both states are not going to side with the pro-gun movement.Most have negative opinions of gun owners.
 

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CommackBoy said:
I agree. There is very little difference between CA and NY. Gotta move away from coasts.
There is one difference: the odds of California falling into the ocean are better!
 

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CommackBoy said:
I agree. There is very little difference between CA and NY. Gotta move away from coasts.
There is one difference: the odds of California falling into the ocean are better!
 

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One difference between CA and NY is that in the case of New York they have semi-retarded open carry, at least for now.
England countered that California law currently lets gun owners carry an unloaded weapon so it can be quickly loaded and used in self-defense if needed.
As a result, "Yolo County's policy does not substantially burden plaintiffs' right to bear and keep arms," England wrote in his 16-page decision.
You can't open carry in NY can you? If not, Westchester has a better argument.
 

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One difference between CA and NY is that in the case of New York they have semi-retarded open carry, at least for now.
England countered that California law currently lets gun owners carry an unloaded weapon so it can be quickly loaded and used in self-defense if needed.
As a result, "Yolo County's policy does not substantially burden plaintiffs' right to bear and keep arms," England wrote in his 16-page decision.
You can't open carry in NY can you? If not, Westchester has a better argument.
 
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