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I am actually kind of surprised it took this long.

And, of course, it isn't a hate crime. Everybody knows that hate crimes can't be committed by minorities. /sarcasm off
 

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I would have thought in Alabama someone would have come out with a gun and ended this thing real quick.
 

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ADIDAS247 said:
If Alabama has a stand your ground law, could he have opened fire on them?
You don't need a stand your ground law to defend yourself against death or imminent bodily harm

They have it there anyway

Alabama is a Castle Doctrine state and has a Stand Your Ground law. Below is the exact Alabama law.

Section 13A-3-23
Use of force in defense of a person.
(a) A person is justified in using physical force upon another person in order to defend himself or herself or a third person from what he or she reasonably believes to be the use or imminent use of unlawful physical force by that other person, and he or she may use a degree of force which he or she reasonably believes to be necessary for the purpose. A person may use deadly physical force, and is legally presumed to be justified in using deadly physical force in self-defense or the defense of another person pursuant to subdivision (4), if the person reasonably believes that another person is:
(1) Using or about to use unlawful deadly physical force.
(2) Using or about to use physical force against an occupant of a dwelling while committing or attempting to commit a burglary of such dwelling.
(3) Committing or about to commit a kidnapping in any degree, assault in the first or second degree, burglary in any degree, robbery in any degree, forcible rape, or forcible sodomy.
(4) In the process of unlawfully and forcefully entering, or has unlawfully and forcefully entered, a dwelling, residence, or occupied vehicle, or federally licensed nuclear power facility, or is in the process of sabotaging or attempting to sabotage a federally licensed nuclear power facility, or is attempting to remove, or has forcefully removed, a person against his or her will from any dwelling, residence, or occupied vehicle when the person has a legal right to be there, and provided that the person using the deadly physical force knows or has reason to believe that an unlawful and forcible entry or unlawful and forcible act is occurring. The legal presumption that a person using deadly physical force is justified to do so pursuant to this subdivision does not apply if:
a. The person against whom the defensive force is used has the right to be in or is a lawful resident of the dwelling, residence, or vehicle, such as an owner or lessee, and there is not an injunction for protection from domestic violence or a written pretrial supervision order of no contact against that person;
b. The person sought to be removed is a child or grandchild, or is otherwise in the lawful custody or under the lawful guardianship of, the person against whom the defensive force is used;
c. The person who uses defensive force is engaged in an unlawful activity or is using the dwelling, residence, or occupied vehicle to further an unlawful activity; or
d. The person against whom the defensive force is used is a law enforcement officer acting in the performance of his or her official duties.
(b) A person who is justified under subsection (a) in using physical force, including deadly physical force, and who is not engaged in an unlawful activity and is in any place where he or she has the right to be has no duty to retreat and has the right to stand his or her ground.
(c) Notwithstanding the provisions of subsection (a), a person is not justified in using physical force if:
(1) With intent to cause physical injury or death to another person, he or she provoked the use of unlawful physical force by such other person.
(2) He or she was the initial aggressor, except that his or her use of physical force upon another person under the circumstances is justifiable if he or she withdraws from the encounter and effectively communicates to the other person his or her intent to do so, but the latter person nevertheless continues or threatens the use of unlawful physical force.
(3) The physical force involved was the product of a combat by agreement not specifically authorized by law.
(d) A person who uses force, including deadly physical force, as justified and permitted in this section is immune from criminal prosecution and civil action for the use of such force, unless the force was determined to be unlawful.
(e) A law enforcement agency may use standard procedures for investigating the use of force described in subsection (a), but the agency may not arrest the person for using force unless it determines that there is probable cause that the force used was unlawful.
(Acts 1977, No. 607, p. 812, §610; Acts 1979, No. 79-599, p. 1060, §1; Act 2006-303, p. 638, §1.)
 

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Myrcinus said:
I am actually kind of surprised it took this long.

And, of course, it isn't a hate crime. Everybody knows that hate crimes can't be committed by minorities. /sarcasm off
Things like this happen everyday,it's just not reported.
When whites are beaten by non-whites it is almost never
treated as a hate crime.
 

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artburg said:
Things like this happen everyday,it's just not reported.
When whites are beaten by non-whites it is almost never
treated as a hate crime.
Very true ... I've seen numerous cases, where "this is for MT" has been exclaimed by the perps ... The News media is trying to bury these stories ... Ironic since NBC, MSNBC, ABC, CNN were at the forefront in the mass rush to Judgment - The race merchants (Sharpton, Jackson, the New PBP, Spike Lee are heinously guilty as well, but let's face facts this is how they make their $$$ …
 

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CJ said:
Wait and see what happens if Zimmerman walks away.
I'll be keeping my wife home from work the day that verdict comes in.
 

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artburg said:
Things like this happen everyday,it's just not reported.
When whites are beaten by non-whites it is almost never
treated as a hate crime.
Seriously?

It's not a hate crime because the guy was not attacked because he was white, he was attaccked BECAUSE HE STARTED CRAP WITH THEIR KIDS.

Just because somebody said they heard spomebody amke a racial remark- after the fact- doesn't make it a hate crime.

The reason black youths don't get charged with as many "hate crimes" is that after a group of black kids beats the crap out of a white kid for being on the wrong side of the tracks rather than vice wersa, the black kids are smart enough to take the guy's wallet, now it's a robbery instead of a "hate crime".

White kids will stand around kicking the black kid and screaming the "N" word until the cops show up and find $40 on the black kid, which rules out robbery defense.
 

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JoeyPBasically said:
Where's all the media spin replies?
What media spin? This didnt garner enough media attention for there to be a spin... hence no replies.

They used a current photo, actual eye witness reports, and the police stated that it is not being investigated as a hate crime at this time but as an assault. Which it was. No jumping to conclusions, just the standard investigation is on going. Hate crimes are part of the prosecution, not the PD investigation.
 

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CJ said:
Wait and see what happens if Zimmerman walks away.
No way he's guilty of M in the 2nd (with the defensive wounds he had) - I'd be surprised if a Judge doesn't toss the case upon the motion for "Summary Judgment" the defense is going to file ...

As for Manslaughter, maybe, but given the State's Investigator's testimony (under oath) - even that seems like a stretch - but, of course, …the public doesn't have access the "official" evidence ..
 

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Captain Will said:
The reason black youths don't get charged with as many "hate crimes" is that after a group of black kids beats the crap out of a white kid for being on the wrong side of the tracks rather than vice wersa, the black kids are smart enough to take the guy's wallet, now it's a robbery instead of a "hate crime".
Actually I think that would make it assault, robbery and a hate crime.
 

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Captain Will said:
It's not a hate crime because the guy was not attacked because he was white, he was attaccked BECAUSE HE STARTED CRAP WITH THEIR KIDS.
Really???

He was beaten...

"after telling a group of children to stop playing basketball in the middle of Delmar Drive."

So warning kids about the danger of playing basketball in the middle of the street is starting "crap with their kids"?

Does a verbal warning justification attempted murder in your mind?

Incredible!
 

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.................... ccccccan't we all just get along ?
 

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Dasgreif said:
What media spin? This didnt garner enough media attention for there to be a spin... hence no replies.

They used a current photo, actual eye witness reports, and the police stated that it is not being investigated as a hate crime at this time but as an assault. Which it was. No jumping to conclusions, just the standard investigation is on going. Hate crimes are part of the prosecution, not the PD investigation.
The eye witness was close enough to hear them say something about trayvon, but she didn't ID anyone. They were playing basketball in front of his house, so how far away could they live. I say media spin because anyone can get beat up right now and reference the biggest case in the country, and make their assault a hate crime. How do we know he didn't say something unsavory to the kids.
 

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2edgesword said:
Really???

He was beaten...

"after telling a group of children to stop playing basketball in the middle of Delmar Drive."

So warning kids about the danger of playing basketball in the middle of the street is starting "crap with their kids"?

Does a verbal warning justification attempted murder in your mind?

Incredible!
Lol there had to be a basketball hoop in the street for them to play..... Come on you're reaching now. Does wearing a hoodie justify......nevermind
 
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