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Hi all,

I will be applying for a Sportsman lic. Once i get it i will be applying for non-resident permit in a few states. I was wondering since the NY one is a restricted CCW in other states that i will be able to carry in will it be a full CCW. and if i get the one in Utah the states it unlocks does that mean i can carry in those states or do i have to get a non-resident permit in the state i want to carry?
 

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Hi all,

I will be applying for a Sportsman lic. Once i get it i will be applying for non-resident permit in a few states. I was wondering since the NY one is a restricted CCW in other states that i will be able to carry in will it be a full CCW. and if i get the one in Utah the states it unlocks does that mean i can carry in those states or do i have to get a non-resident permit in the state i want to carry?
 

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IF I understand your question correctly, yes you'd be full ccw-if thats what the lic is, some are OC. the utah I'm not sure of but if it "unlocks" states with a non-res lic, I'd say your gtg!
 

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IF I understand your question correctly, yes you'd be full ccw-if thats what the lic is, some are OC. the utah I'm not sure of but if it "unlocks" states with a non-res lic, I'd say your gtg!
 

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Derschatten said:
Hi all,

I will be applying for a Sportsman lic. Once i get it i will be applying for non-resident permit in a few states. I was wondering since the NY one is a restricted CCW in other states that i will be able to carry in will it be a full CCW. and if i get the one in Utah the states it unlocks does that mean i can carry in those states or do i have to get a non-resident permit in the state i want to carry?
Actually, your NY license will be a full "CCW" pistol permit. The local licensing authority puts an administrative restriction on that State license, restricting you to "target/hunting" as defined by that local authority. Day to day and in New York State, this is effectively the same thing as having a "sportsman" license. From a legal perspective, the semantics are important.

Pennsylvania for example, recognizes the "restricted" NY license as a full CCW and will issue a non-resident CCW to you. This I know from personal experience (went through the Sheriff in Centre County). So I cannot carry in NY, but can in PA and several other states that acknowledge a PA non-resident license. I have also heard from others that several other states will issue a full CCW non-resident permit based on a"restricted" NY license.

Some points to remember:
- NY does not honor other states licenses.
- Some state's reciprocity only applies to resident licenses. Be aware which states you are legal in before you head there with a handgun.
- Different states have different laws. Things like a requirement to inform an officer you are carrying when at a traffic stop. Be aware of (and abide by) all local laws.
- be VERY aware of the laws for states (and cities) that you pass through. For example, if you have a NY permit and are driving to PA where you have a non-resident permit, you still have to pass through NYC and NJ. Both of those jurisdictions have their own laws/rules (hint: you better have the guns and ammo locked up).

Hope this helps.
 

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Derschatten said:
Hi all,

I will be applying for a Sportsman lic. Once i get it i will be applying for non-resident permit in a few states. I was wondering since the NY one is a restricted CCW in other states that i will be able to carry in will it be a full CCW. and if i get the one in Utah the states it unlocks does that mean i can carry in those states or do i have to get a non-resident permit in the state i want to carry?
Actually, your NY license will be a full "CCW" pistol permit. The local licensing authority puts an administrative restriction on that State license, restricting you to "target/hunting" as defined by that local authority. Day to day and in New York State, this is effectively the same thing as having a "sportsman" license. From a legal perspective, the semantics are important.

Pennsylvania for example, recognizes the "restricted" NY license as a full CCW and will issue a non-resident CCW to you. This I know from personal experience (went through the Sheriff in Centre County). So I cannot carry in NY, but can in PA and several other states that acknowledge a PA non-resident license. I have also heard from others that several other states will issue a full CCW non-resident permit based on a"restricted" NY license.

Some points to remember:
- NY does not honor other states licenses.
- Some state's reciprocity only applies to resident licenses. Be aware which states you are legal in before you head there with a handgun.
- Different states have different laws. Things like a requirement to inform an officer you are carrying when at a traffic stop. Be aware of (and abide by) all local laws.
- be VERY aware of the laws for states (and cities) that you pass through. For example, if you have a NY permit and are driving to PA where you have a non-resident permit, you still have to pass through NYC and NJ. Both of those jurisdictions have their own laws/rules (hint: you better have the guns and ammo locked up).

Hope this helps.
 

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Great info jrm!

By the way would you care to divulge your name perhaps in your signature? I would have liked to answer you by a real name!
 

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Great info jrm!

By the way would you care to divulge your name perhaps in your signature? I would have liked to answer you by a real name!
 

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Our state does give us full carry. Nassau/Suffolk and a few other counties restrict us to home and range. Residents living as close as Dutches County, NY (60-70 miles from the Nassau border) are issued unrestricted permits. So to sum it up, people 60 miles away from Nassau county can come to Nassau and carry, but we, as residents of Nassau cannot.
 

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Our state does give us full carry. Nassau/Suffolk and a few other counties restrict us to home and range. Residents living as close as Dutches County, NY (60-70 miles from the Nassau border) are issued unrestricted permits. So to sum it up, people 60 miles away from Nassau county can come to Nassau and carry, but we, as residents of Nassau cannot.
 

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..and there folks is the only loophole.

Buy a house up-state.
 

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..and there folks is the only loophole.

Buy a house up-state.
 

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reodds said:
Great info jrm!

By the way would you care to divulge your name perhaps in your signature? I would have liked to answer you by a real name!
My apologies - I usually add a manual sig. Real name is Joe. I have just added an automatic sig, so we will see how that works.
 

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reodds said:
Great info jrm!

By the way would you care to divulge your name perhaps in your signature? I would have liked to answer you by a real name!
My apologies - I usually add a manual sig. Real name is Joe. I have just added an automatic sig, so we will see how that works.
 

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My PA License is full carry "For Self-Defense".

We need every single member on the forums to call & Write our representatives in albany and tell them we want the arbitrary restrictions removed, and want "Self-Defense" added as an acceptable 'need'.
 

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My PA License is full carry "For Self-Defense".

We need every single member on the forums to call & Write our representatives in albany and tell them we want the arbitrary restrictions removed, and want "Self-Defense" added as an acceptable 'need'.
 
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