Got some question about sportsman and non-res

Derschatten said:

Hi all,

I will be applying for a Sportsman lic. Once i get it i will be applying for non-resident permit in a few states. I was wondering since the NY one is a restricted CCW in other states that i will be able to carry in will it be a full CCW. and if i get the one in Utah the states it unlocks does that mean i can carry in those states or do i have to get a non-resident permit in the state i want to carry?

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Actually, your NY license will be a full "CCW" pistol permit. The local licensing authority puts an administrative restriction on that State license, restricting you to "target/hunting" as defined by that local authority. Day to day and in New York State, this is effectively the same thing as having a "sportsman" license. From a legal perspective, the semantics are important.

Pennsylvania for example, recognizes the "restricted" NY license as a full CCW and will issue a non-resident CCW to you. This I know from personal experience (went through the Sheriff in Centre County). So I cannot carry in NY, but can in PA and several other states that acknowledge a PA non-resident license. I have also heard from others that several other states will issue a full CCW non-resident permit based on a"restricted" NY license.

Some points to remember:
- NY does not honor other states licenses.
- Some state's reciprocity only applies to resident licenses. Be aware which states you are legal in before you head there with a handgun.
- Different states have different laws. Things like a requirement to inform an officer you are carrying when at a traffic stop. Be aware of (and abide by) all local laws.
- be VERY aware of the laws for states (and cities) that you pass through. For example, if you have a NY permit and are driving to PA where you have a non-resident permit, you still have to pass through NYC and NJ. Both of those jurisdictions have their own laws/rules (hint: you better have the guns and ammo locked up).

Hope this helps.

Derschatten said:

Hi all,

I will be applying for a Sportsman lic. Once i get it i will be applying for non-resident permit in a few states. I was wondering since the NY one is a restricted CCW in other states that i will be able to carry in will it be a full CCW. and if i get the one in Utah the states it unlocks does that mean i can carry in those states or do i have to get a non-resident permit in the state i want to carry?

Click to expand...

Actually, your NY license will be a full "CCW" pistol permit. The local licensing authority puts an administrative restriction on that State license, restricting you to "target/hunting" as defined by that local authority. Day to day and in New York State, this is effectively the same thing as having a "sportsman" license. From a legal perspective, the semantics are important.

Pennsylvania for example, recognizes the "restricted" NY license as a full CCW and will issue a non-resident CCW to you. This I know from personal experience (went through the Sheriff in Centre County). So I cannot carry in NY, but can in PA and several other states that acknowledge a PA non-resident license. I have also heard from others that several other states will issue a full CCW non-resident permit based on a"restricted" NY license.

Some points to remember:
- NY does not honor other states licenses.
- Some state's reciprocity only applies to resident licenses. Be aware which states you are legal in before you head there with a handgun.
- Different states have different laws. Things like a requirement to inform an officer you are carrying when at a traffic stop. Be aware of (and abide by) all local laws.
- be VERY aware of the laws for states (and cities) that you pass through. For example, if you have a NY permit and are driving to PA where you have a non-resident permit, you still have to pass through NYC and NJ. Both of those jurisdictions have their own laws/rules (hint: you better have the guns and ammo locked up).

Hope this helps.