Ouch cas. . . . . lol
And welcome to the forum!
Have a great Memorial Day Weekend.
Eric
And welcome to the forum!
Have a great Memorial Day Weekend.
Eric
Edelman's pistol permit "service"
You have to admire the unrepentant chutzpah of this guy. Here's a cut and paste from the Edelmans pistol permit website, highlighting the most egregious frauds and fabrications.
Since 1968, over 35 years ago, Edelman's has been helping our customers navigate the tedious process of obtaining pistol permits. From our legendary store in Farmingdale, Long Island, we answered the call of our customers in assisting them in what has always been, and has become an increasingly difficult process. As our business grew to ultimately be the largest gun dealer in the world, this service was born out of necessity. We couldn't sell handguns unless permits were obtained first. In answer to the needs of our customers, our permit service was started. Since that time, we have been serving those needs of both individuals and businesses alike in obtaining these seemingly impossible to obtain permits.
Many people over the years have commented that the application process has been made deliberately difficult to obtain through the various issuing bodies. People have said that the paperwork is unfair and slanted toward denying every application made. Perhaps this is true. The specific language and precision with which these applications must be filled out is extremely difficult at best to untrained and inexperienced applicants. We have made it easy. With over thirty years of experience, our expertise has enabled us to get ten fold more permits for more people than anyone else ever in the business combined. We are unique. Problems like arrests, misdemeanors, DWI's and other background problems are easily overcome. Our success rate is staggering, virtually 100%. We offer a full refund if your permit is denied with our paperwork, we guarantee our work. All you have to do is tell the truth. Edelman's chooses not to work with people who have had felony convictions. We offer three free shooting ranges on Long Island. Our pistol club, Clearmeadow Pistol Club, of which you are automatically a member when you sign up, is the largest pistol club in the United States. Unlimited free private instruction from NRA certified instructors is included, as is unlimited practice time at all three of our ranges.
No one offers any of these services at any price. We take, and have always taken, tremendous pride in the reputation we have developed over the years. Police officers recommend us on a regular basis. They know us, as we know them. This mutual respect is something that can only be earned after decades of outstanding performance and service to the community. This is also a great source of pride for our entire company. In 1997, we closed our retail store in Farmingdale. Changing times led to dramatic reductions in hunting and fishing sales. For those of you who knew our immense store, it was a sad day indeed. At one time we had eight stores in the metro area. Perhaps it had to do with the views certain people held about the political correctness of hunting.
Perhaps the computer age became the recreational outlet for a new generation. Times changed, and we changed right along with them. The only constant was the increasing demand for pistol permits. As always, our total dedication and loyalty to our customers has led us to where we are today; still the biggest and best. Right now, legislators are trying to stop your ability to apply for new pistol permits. Spearheaded by Carolyn McCarthy, Charles Schumer & Hillary Clinton, the day may soon come where yet another constitutional right will be altered forever. When the World Trade Centers were completed in 1972, we were there for our customers. Now they have fallen, but not the spirit of the people of New York that we have and will continue to serve so proudly. We are truly at war. What will be next? Protect yourself with Edelman's, the very best there is. Call for information now!
Since 1968, over 35 years ago, Edelman's has been helping our customers navigate the tedious process of obtaining pistol permits. From our legendary store in Farmingdale, Long Island, we answered the call of our customers in assisting them in what has always been, and has become an increasingly difficult process. As our business grew to ultimately be the largest gun dealer in the world, this service was born out of necessity. We couldn't sell handguns unless permits were obtained first. In answer to the needs of our customers, our permit service was started. Since that time, we have been serving those needs of both individuals and businesses alike in obtaining these seemingly impossible to obtain permits.
Many people over the years have commented that the application process has been made deliberately difficult to obtain through the various issuing bodies. People have said that the paperwork is unfair and slanted toward denying every application made. Perhaps this is true. The specific language and precision with which these applications must be filled out is extremely difficult at best to untrained and inexperienced applicants. We have made it easy. With over thirty years of experience, our expertise has enabled us to get ten fold more permits for more people than anyone else ever in the business combined. We are unique. Problems like arrests, misdemeanors, DWI's and other background problems are easily overcome. Our success rate is staggering, virtually 100%. We offer a full refund if your permit is denied with our paperwork, we guarantee our work. All you have to do is tell the truth. Edelman's chooses not to work with people who have had felony convictions. We offer three free shooting ranges on Long Island. Our pistol club, Clearmeadow Pistol Club, of which you are automatically a member when you sign up, is the largest pistol club in the United States. Unlimited free private instruction from NRA certified instructors is included, as is unlimited practice time at all three of our ranges.
No one offers any of these services at any price. We take, and have always taken, tremendous pride in the reputation we have developed over the years. Police officers recommend us on a regular basis. They know us, as we know them. This mutual respect is something that can only be earned after decades of outstanding performance and service to the community. This is also a great source of pride for our entire company. In 1997, we closed our retail store in Farmingdale. Changing times led to dramatic reductions in hunting and fishing sales. For those of you who knew our immense store, it was a sad day indeed. At one time we had eight stores in the metro area. Perhaps it had to do with the views certain people held about the political correctness of hunting.
Perhaps the computer age became the recreational outlet for a new generation. Times changed, and we changed right along with them. The only constant was the increasing demand for pistol permits. As always, our total dedication and loyalty to our customers has led us to where we are today; still the biggest and best. Right now, legislators are trying to stop your ability to apply for new pistol permits. Spearheaded by Carolyn McCarthy, Charles Schumer & Hillary Clinton, the day may soon come where yet another constitutional right will be altered forever. When the World Trade Centers were completed in 1972, we were there for our customers. Now they have fallen, but not the spirit of the people of New York that we have and will continue to serve so proudly. We are truly at war. What will be next? Protect yourself with Edelman's, the very best there is. Call for information now!
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The NCPD Pistol Section go out of there way to tell people NOT TO USE A PAID SERVICE. They tell applicants to call or come in with their questions.
At the Freeport R&R Association, we keep NCPD applications that are given to us by the NCPD. We are happy to help applicants, basically for free. We do ask for a donation for our Junior Program, but that never exceeds a brick of .22LR ammo.
Edelman's has been making 'claims' for years, and most know to keep away from him.
At the Freeport R&R Association, we keep NCPD applications that are given to us by the NCPD. We are happy to help applicants, basically for free. We do ask for a donation for our Junior Program, but that never exceeds a brick of .22LR ammo.
Edelman's has been making 'claims' for years, and most know to keep away from him.
When I applied to my SC pistol permit (over 10 years ago), my application packet specifically indicated that using "Pistol Permit Service" didn't speed up nor increase your chance of getting your permit, therefor just do it yourself.
As for Edelman's go, this store used to sell that "Lifetime warranty(or something to that nature) for $10 extra and it was supposed to fix any kind of mechanical problems you may encounter with your firearm. Well, I guess they made it out like bandits and never have to fulfill the warranty service.
As for Edelman's go, this store used to sell that "Lifetime warranty(or something to that nature) for $10 extra and it was supposed to fix any kind of mechanical problems you may encounter with your firearm. Well, I guess they made it out like bandits and never have to fulfill the warranty service.
Edelmans pistol service exists as a separate entity from Edelmans retail store. The pistol license part is currently open. They are on Jericho Tpke in Huntington. SCPD still makes the same mention NOT to use any service.M1garand said:When I applied to my SC pistol permit (over 10 years ago), my application packet specifically indicated that using "Pistol Permit Service" didn't speed up nor increase your chance of getting your permit, therefor just do it yourself.
As for Edelman's go, this store used to sell that "Lifetime warranty(or something to that nature) for $10 extra and it was supposed to fix any kind of mechanical problems you may encounter with your firearm. Well, I guess they made it out like bandits and never have to fulfill the warranty service.
As far as the Lifetime Warranty goes, they make great cocktail napkins or bird cage liners. I have a few also.
I still miss Edelmans though.
I'm a bit late to the party on this thread. but Eric, please don't be so reticent, your knowledge and experience is a great asset to this community.ecr said:Thank you John.
Like I have said from the beginning here. . . . I will, most of the time, be in the background as I feel this forum is for "The People".
Eric
Best,
Foosel
when i was going to apply i talked to someone there and they gave me the info on what they did etc and for a newbie it sounded like a good idea. then i started doing research and even went to the the police station to talk to them there about it. They said there is absolutely no reason i needed to use that service so I didnt and got my permit without a problem.
Johnnynoc,
Good for you to educate yourself! Look at all that money you saved!
Good for you to educate yourself! Look at all that money you saved!
When I began reading the post about Edelman's Pistol Service, like a waterfall, memories of that big store in Farmingdale were released from the archives of my brain, and put up on the big screen.
It was about 35 years ago and I haven't given them a thought since, but there were a bunch of strange salespeople working in that busy place, and it held a certain fascination for me at the time. They had their pistol license service then, along with an indoor range in Levittown.
I was a PBA delegate during the mid 70's, and Edelman's was going full steam ahead. It advertised heavily in Newsday and the Sunday Daily News, so it drew so many people on weekends, that many had to wait outside for customers to come out, before they could go in.
There was always a mob of people, who came from the five boroughs of New York City, Westchester and Rockland counties, and even New Jersey and Connecticut, to purchase sporting goods, at huge savings. In fact, an enterprising hotdog vendor requested permission to bring his cart into their parking lot, and sell food and drinks to the crowd. Parking on Sherwood Avenue was prohibited.
Permission was granted, but Edelman's took a 20% kickback on every sale, and put a sales clerk, with a calculator, next to the cart, to deter the vendor from cheating.
Meanwhile, the owner of Edelman's, who was located in Pennsylvania, heard that there was a hotshot available, who knew the police equipment business like the back of his hand. Mr. Leslie Edelman instructed his junior partner, Robert, who was in charge of running the Farmingdale store, to hire this guy right away, before somebody else did.
The offer must've been very sweet, because this guy showed up on the scene, and put Edelman's in the police equipment business. After all, it was a natural, with weapons being the common denominator, between sporting-goods and Police Department customers.
Since's Edelman's first opened its doors, we were receiving reports that they were selling miniature PBA badges and other similar items, in their store. We let it go, because we didn't think it was very pervasive. However, as these reports became more frequent, we began to pay more attention.
Edelman's had a reputation in police circles, as being borderline "sleazy". We had no reason to believe otherwise, and they were selling our badges. So, when we heard that they had a showcase filled with counterfeit full-sized badges of our department, as well as those from other major departments in this area, that received our immediate attention.
I accompanied my NCPD PBA president, two detectives from Special Investigations, and a crime scene detective with his camera, to Edelman's. We identified ourselves, and requested to see the Honcho, running the newly established police division. We were told that he was out for lunch, but should be back in about 15 minutes. While we waited, we looked at the showcases, that the counterfeit badges were displayed in, and CSU took pictures of everything.
The store manager said "that's Mr. Richards, coming in right now." I remember this moment because we all did a double take when we saw that Mr. Richards was accompanied by our Chief Of Detectives, the SCPD Chief of Detectives, and the SCPD Chief Inspector. Our chief addressed his detectives by saying "What's up Boys?" There was a pregnant pause that lasted at least 30 seconds, after which the chief introduced his colleagues, and Mr. Richards, like they were all pals.
As it turned out, they were all pals. The Chief Inspector told us that whatever Edelman's may or may not have done before Mr. Richard's arrival, no longer mattered. Now that he's here, everyone should know that he will never tolerate any shady activities during his tenure. Our Chief of Detectives pointed out that none of the full sized badges that were displayed in the showcases, were counterfeit. they were all 100% official and authentic, and Edelman's doesn't sell them to anyone, at any price, at any time.
Edelman's police division had become the new official supplier of badges to the Nassau County, Suffolk County, New York City, Port Authority, and other major police departments throughout the country. We sheepishly left, and never heard a bad word about Edelman's police equipment again.
There is more to this story, but I've never posted on these boards before, and I don't wish to bore anyone with more trivia, if you don't find this post to be worthy of continuing.
I'll wait for feedback from ya'all before proceeding.
It was about 35 years ago and I haven't given them a thought since, but there were a bunch of strange salespeople working in that busy place, and it held a certain fascination for me at the time. They had their pistol license service then, along with an indoor range in Levittown.
I was a PBA delegate during the mid 70's, and Edelman's was going full steam ahead. It advertised heavily in Newsday and the Sunday Daily News, so it drew so many people on weekends, that many had to wait outside for customers to come out, before they could go in.
There was always a mob of people, who came from the five boroughs of New York City, Westchester and Rockland counties, and even New Jersey and Connecticut, to purchase sporting goods, at huge savings. In fact, an enterprising hotdog vendor requested permission to bring his cart into their parking lot, and sell food and drinks to the crowd. Parking on Sherwood Avenue was prohibited.
Permission was granted, but Edelman's took a 20% kickback on every sale, and put a sales clerk, with a calculator, next to the cart, to deter the vendor from cheating.
Meanwhile, the owner of Edelman's, who was located in Pennsylvania, heard that there was a hotshot available, who knew the police equipment business like the back of his hand. Mr. Leslie Edelman instructed his junior partner, Robert, who was in charge of running the Farmingdale store, to hire this guy right away, before somebody else did.
The offer must've been very sweet, because this guy showed up on the scene, and put Edelman's in the police equipment business. After all, it was a natural, with weapons being the common denominator, between sporting-goods and Police Department customers.
Since's Edelman's first opened its doors, we were receiving reports that they were selling miniature PBA badges and other similar items, in their store. We let it go, because we didn't think it was very pervasive. However, as these reports became more frequent, we began to pay more attention.
Edelman's had a reputation in police circles, as being borderline "sleazy". We had no reason to believe otherwise, and they were selling our badges. So, when we heard that they had a showcase filled with counterfeit full-sized badges of our department, as well as those from other major departments in this area, that received our immediate attention.
I accompanied my NCPD PBA president, two detectives from Special Investigations, and a crime scene detective with his camera, to Edelman's. We identified ourselves, and requested to see the Honcho, running the newly established police division. We were told that he was out for lunch, but should be back in about 15 minutes. While we waited, we looked at the showcases, that the counterfeit badges were displayed in, and CSU took pictures of everything.
The store manager said "that's Mr. Richards, coming in right now." I remember this moment because we all did a double take when we saw that Mr. Richards was accompanied by our Chief Of Detectives, the SCPD Chief of Detectives, and the SCPD Chief Inspector. Our chief addressed his detectives by saying "What's up Boys?" There was a pregnant pause that lasted at least 30 seconds, after which the chief introduced his colleagues, and Mr. Richards, like they were all pals.
As it turned out, they were all pals. The Chief Inspector told us that whatever Edelman's may or may not have done before Mr. Richard's arrival, no longer mattered. Now that he's here, everyone should know that he will never tolerate any shady activities during his tenure. Our Chief of Detectives pointed out that none of the full sized badges that were displayed in the showcases, were counterfeit. they were all 100% official and authentic, and Edelman's doesn't sell them to anyone, at any price, at any time.
Edelman's police division had become the new official supplier of badges to the Nassau County, Suffolk County, New York City, Port Authority, and other major police departments throughout the country. We sheepishly left, and never heard a bad word about Edelman's police equipment again.
There is more to this story, but I've never posted on these boards before, and I don't wish to bore anyone with more trivia, if you don't find this post to be worthy of continuing.
I'll wait for feedback from ya'all before proceeding.
Welcome... interesting post.
I love hearing old stories about Edelmans. Bring 'em.
i love cool local history. Glad you wrote what you did, because not only was IT interesting, but i got to read ECR's whose post was always very cool. thanks for sharing!
I had 2 Kimber of Oregon 89 BGR bolt action rifles and I could never understand why they went out of business. They were at the time one of the finest in actions and with fantastic wood as well. Had them for many years and never had a problem with them.
I miss Edelmans also, mostly because it had the most knowledgeable and usually friendly people working there, but that was at a time when it took only 3 weeks to get my Suffolk pistol license at the fourth prescient in Hauppauge. Everything changes.
I miss Edelmans also, mostly because it had the most knowledgeable and usually friendly people working there, but that was at a time when it took only 3 weeks to get my Suffolk pistol license at the fourth prescient in Hauppauge. Everything changes.
That was a damn good necro post! Welcome Paladin!
Edelmans brings back some fond memories for me. When I was about 10 or 11 my dad used to bring me to Edelmans when he had me on weekends (parents split up). I remember thinking it was the coolest place I had ever been and was so amazed at all the guns.
Edelmans brings back some fond memories for me. When I was about 10 or 11 my dad used to bring me to Edelmans when he had me on weekends (parents split up). I remember thinking it was the coolest place I had ever been and was so amazed at all the guns.
dad used edelmans in the 90s, no issues.. prices went through the roof.. i filled out mine on my own with some help from the guys here and had 0 issues.
Steve
Steve
I remember thinking I needed to do the same 19 years ago. Even went to some jerk's office (who specialized in the same thing) where he had the paper work for me to fill out. Then he was going to submit it for me. It was only going to cost me $400.00!
I lived in Brooklyn and went to Edelmans to buy my first gun in the 1980s It was a Browning BAR 22 It was such a beautiful rifle but I lost it when my house got robbed.(my next purchese was a gun vault)I still have the paper work, receipt and life time guarantee. I wish I had the rifle instead.
I have literally in my life NEVER heard someone recommend anyone go to Edelmans.
Guns never found, huh? I love how much effort They will put into finding ways to remove legal guns from the law abiding, and how little they will do to find known illegal guns on the street.I lived in Brooklyn and went to Edelmans to buy my first gun in the 1980s It was a Browning BAR 22 It was such a beautiful rifle but I lost it when my house got robbed.(my next purchese was a gun vault)I still have the paper work, receipt and life time guarantee. I wish I had the rifle instead.
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