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I'm not a big fan of German shepherds but my wife wants one and since I pretty much get whatever I want I'm not going to try to change her mind. I am not interested in adopting one. What I'm looking for is really twofold first I would like to find a breeder whether local or in another state that breeds absolutely perfect German shepherds. Second I would like to have the dog professionally trained so that I can have a good protective family dog as well as an efficient, uh, "deterrent". Obviously I can just scour the Internet for this information and I have already started that and will continue that but I just figured I would ask on the off chance that somebody on here may be able to point me in the right direction. The breed is pretty much set in stone as well as wanting one from a private breeder. And no I will not do anything regarding giraffes!! I've heard they are incredibly difficult to get housebroken.
 

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I know what you think you want, but I'm gonna say it anyway. Take a trip to your local shelter. Go to a few. Bring the wife. You may not find a German Shepherd, but I can guarantee you will both find a friendly, loving, grateful animal whose life might literally depend on you rescuing them.
 

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I can't help you with a breeder but predict you will have the utmost respect for your new best friend in no time flat. You will see GSD's are seriously loyal and make great family dogs. Forget protection training; you will have no trouble in that regard.
 

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I know what you think you want, but I'm gonna say it anyway. Take a trip to your local shelter. Go to a few. Bring the wife. You may not find a German Shepherd, but I can guarantee you will both find a friendly, loving, grateful animal whose life might literally depend on you rescuing them.
i e done my share of rescues, mine and his & his & his, etc. but I hear you.
 

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A friend was able to get one from them, it was a waiting list and an involved adoption process. But they got an amazing dog.
 

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http://www.thek9center.com/

K-9 center is where I got my German Shepherd, Czar, a four years ago. Very nice place, John the owner is a very gruff guy, but he is very knowledgeable and a nice guy. I can also refer you to a fantastic trainer (He teaches you, not the dog. And non of that "Here's a treat" BS. You should be the dogs incentive, not a treat.) Johns a good trainer, but I like my guy, Don Sterling, better.

Word of warning: Don't bring the wife on the first trip. As soon as she picks up that Shepherd puppy, her heart will melt.

Oh and my Shepherd has saved my home on more than one occasion. Busted through my front door when a pit bull down the block got out and started snarling at my mom when she was gardening. Czar tackled that dog, and that pipbull ran home with its tail between its legs. Czar came over to my side as if to ask "Ok. Now what?"

Edit: Here's the link for the trainer, http://www.quailrunkennels.com/aboutus.html . He holds a few classes a year. Dog must be 6 months old to go to class. Don Sterling did some police dog training for a while, fantastic trainer.

And you'll never have an annoying salesman knock on your door again.

Edit: Another thing. K9 center doesn't breed their Shepherds to have the "Slanted back". The notorious trait that give's German Shepherds the major hip problems down the road. His dogs are square, and healthy.
 

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I know a few people who have 'upper tier' GSD's, I'll ask. But most of those are not from the U.S. or Germany, but from the Czech Republic. I've heard they have the highest and strictest breeding standards (someone can correct me if I'm wrong about that).

Even at the better local breeders, I expect there would be an extensive adoption procedure and you'll pay $2500 to $3000 per dog, maybe more.
Expect an 8 to 10 page application with a visit from the breeder - or at least you'd have to send photos of your yards, etc.

Decent training may set you back a couple of more $1000's, depending on what you want....
 

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I know a few people who have 'upper tier' GSD's, I'll ask. But most of those are not from the U.S. or Germany, but from the Czech Republic. I've heard they have the highest and strictest breeding standards (someone can correct me if I'm wrong about that).

Even at the better local breeders, I expect there would be an extensive adoption procedure and you'll pay $2500 to $3000 per dog, maybe more.
Expect an 8 to 10 page application with a visit from the breeder - or at least you'd have to send photos of your yards, etc.

Decent training may set you back a couple of more $1000's, depending on what you want....
To add to that, the place I recommended has Czech, Belgian, and German Shepherds.
 

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I know a few people who have 'upper tier' GSD's, I'll ask. But most of those are not from the U.S. or Germany, but from the Czech Republic. I've heard they have the highest and strictest breeding standards (someone can correct me if I'm wrong about that).

Even at the better local breeders, I expect there would be an extensive adoption procedure and you'll pay $2500 to $3000 per dog, maybe more.
Expect an 8 to 10 page application with a visit from the breeder - or at least you'd have to send photos of your yards, etc.

Decent training may set you back a couple of more $1000's, depending on what you want....
You are right. Whenever I see a pure bread shephard who does not have extremely sloped hind quarters they either come from Europe, or European breeders here. My mother in law had a champion shephard, and although with age she moved on to smaller, more manageable breeds for her age, her shephard is still her favorite dog. Good luck. This is not going to be cheap!
 

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Well tank you all for the input! I e learned a lot between here and some websites about the dogs. I have settled on the idea that I would rather endure & enjoy a lengthy "adoption" process from a top tier breeder & pay the associated costs than risk getting anything less than a superior dog. The dog I want will be a healthy(both mentally & physically) individual that can be a family member & interact well with my wife & daughter. I want a dog that can be trained to protect but that is both very important to me as well as a distant second place to my first criteria. My wife & I haven't spent more than 12 hrs apart in many years & only recently when I worked a few overnights did she admit that she doesn't feel safe without me home late at night. I was surprised & also kinda flattered but it also made me think that having a good strong dog with protective instincts would be a great idea. Too bad they have such long hair, probably gets hot in the summer. I guess I could have it trimmed.
 

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Best of luck on finding your new friend, he or she is waiting for and your family..post some pics when get around to it. .
definitely! I have a feeling it is going to be a long, rewarding process. Pretty much the antithesis of a pet store purchase. I want one with a short muzzle, collapsible tail, shoulder fur that goes up, long range nose, 30 round barks, plenty of knock down power & API teeth
gun stuff. Also the ability to lay down on the couch with me!
 

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check out " Want ad Digest " online . They list pups by breeders upstate . The Amish breed also , you can do a search online ( a service lists them as the Amish have not discovered internet porn .
 
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