That's a really good Q, I wonder about posing this to Nassau re: making a scratchbuilt frame. I would predict laughter or "NO you can't" (regardless of tyhe actual law) but I have not asked yet.
When I raised this question, this is what I was thinking, an entirely from scratch reciever. I didn't think about COBIS requirements.Captain Will said:Some of us on here are equipped/capable of scratch-building a hangun. Personally, I don't think I would attempt a revolver or semi, and would buy a barrel for anything other than a derringer type gun, but can CoBIS be proven to be impossible to satify and therefore void in the case of a self-build? What about what appears to be the impending repeal of CoBIS?
Getting the "registerable part" (frame/serial numbered major component) is not difficult at all Gary, I've done it several times. All you need to do is crack open the Brownell's catalog and you'll see dozens of frames available...Many other sources as well.Gary_Hungerford said:You can't take possession of the registerable part, without a handgun license and a purchase document. At that point, you must register it. Finding someone to sell you only that part is going to be difficult, not like with long guns.
Can you legally build you own? Sure, just try to find the parts, LEGALLY and without so much hassle that it's cheaper to buy commercially. Remember, that as a non-FFL, you may not possess a handgun, which has not been CoBISed. How can you, as a non-FFL get a gun CoBISed? You can't.
those kits have serial numbered frames to start with - you simply have to provide that to the PD just like any other gun to put on your licensegunsngolf said:My father has a home built black powder pistol. They have a lot if kits for them. But like any black powder pistol you don't need a license to own it, just to shoot it. He did get it put on his license though. I'll ask him about the S/N.
I don't always look at things in terms of what is cheapest or easiest, or available off the shelf. It might be a fun project to do, I am thinking along the lines of a single shot, falling block action target/hunt pistol in one of the rifle cartridges like .223, .270 etc. There are a lot of available Contender barrels, and I am not a big fan of the looks of the Contender or MOA. and I think the screw-breech guns look like a sewer pipe and the bolt action XP type is done to death. No offense to the guys that like those types, but there is a certain appeal to the creative process, and making exactly what you want rather than choosing form among other people's interpretations of what a gun was supposed to be like.Parashooter said:As far as scratchbuilding a frame from a block of steel... I haven't been able to get a great answer on the registration issues. but I kinda set it aside for now anyway - I know I "can" if I needed to, make my own - but it just doesn't pay time & materials wise to do it.
I think they are wrong, CoBis is a dealer / ffl requirement , the law states that only a dealer / ffl who receives a new pistol from a manufacturer ( which includes distributors and other ffl's) is required to cobis . A manufacturer who uses their own pistol is not required to cobis and if you are not a dealer or FFL you are not required to cobis.Postal Bob said:This was a question I recently ask the Nassau pistol dept.
Their first answer was " we don't know." Then after talking it over they told me that the frame must be registered and listed on your license like any handgun. And then when completed, you have to get it cobis and then re-register it with the caliber now listed. And all this they still weren't sure of.
WOW, cool looking little gun- and I did not even know you could get liners- I would have tried to make this part out of an existing chambered barrel from a 10/22 or something.gz said:Get out your hacksaws, files and scrap metal.
That is similar to what I wanted to do, except I was starting with 10" from a 91/30 barrel and was going to go with .32 acp or the .32 S&W long / .32 H&R mag.gz said:Get out your hacksaws, files and scrap metal.