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Start our roadtrip in Suffolk, with firearm in lockbox. Didn't want to take any chances thru NYC and NJ. When fueling in Pa. I went to concealed carry. Thru Ohio, Kentucky, Indiania, back in the box for Illinois. Back to concealed in Missouri, to concealed snd open carry in Kansas. In Colorado, had to take round out of chamber and leave firearm on plain sight. Moving into Utah back to concealed carry. Have been at Zion National for 2 days and will be enroute to Redwood National forest. We left Utah on our journey to California Redwood forest in Klamath. Open carry til the California border where the firearm was placed back into the lock box before the check point for declaring no fruits or woods from other states. The pistol stayed in lock box either in vehicle or our room.
Leaving California our journey took us through Oregon. Your choice in Oregon is open/plain sight with no round in chamber or disassembled locked away. Guess you know which on I opted for.
I talked to a gentleman who was attending the pumps at a chevron station in Christmas Valley, Oregon, he carried his 9mm and really didn't care what the state law was. "They change them damn laws more than I change underwear. I just carry in case I need it."
Next state was Idaho, woo hoo. FREEDOM. No licenses needed, concealed or open carry and 80 mph speed limit. Wyoming is same as Idaho expect they slow you down to 75mph. Staying in Cody Wyoming and visiting Yellowstone before our journey home. Buffalo are majestic animals and taste good too, i metioned thst to one that was blpcking the road for 3 minutes while in park. Updated in day or so.
We have beautiful country.
 

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Forgot to mention in beginning, have NY,Pa.,and Utah licenses. For those who have inquiring minds.
 

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Sounds like an amazing trip. I'm planning a 5 day excursion/vacation for early september. Never been out west. A lot of people have been recomending Zion national park. I'd love to do yellowstone but I hear you need a full week to really experience it and take it in. Out of the parks you went to, which would you recommend if you only had 5 days?
 

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Start our roadtrip in Suffolk, with firearm in lockbox. Didn't want to take any chances thru NYC and NJ. When fueling in Pa. I went to concealed carry. Thru Ohio, Kentucky, Indiania, back in the box for Illinois. Back to concealed in Missouri, to concealed snd open carry in Kansas. In Colorado, had to take round out of chamber and leave firearm on plain sight. Moving into Utah back to concealed carry. Have been at Zion National for 2 days and will be enroute to Redwood National forest. We left Utah on our journey to California Redwood forest in Klamath. Open carry til the California border where the firearm was placed back into the lock box before the check point for declaring no fruits or woods from other states. The pistol stayed in lock box either in vehicle or our room.
Leaving California our journey took us through Oregon. Your choice in Oregon is open/plain sight with no round in chamber or disassembled locked away. Guess you know which on I opted for.
I talked to a gentleman who was attending the pumps at a chevron station in Christmas Valley, Oregon, he carried his 9mm and really didn't care what the state law was. "They change them damn laws more than I change underwear. I just carry in case I need it."
Next state was Idaho, woo hoo. FREEDOM. No licenses needed, concealed or open carry and 80 mph speed limit. Wyoming is same as Idaho expect they slow you down to 75mph. Staying in Cody Wyoming and visiting Yellowstone before our journey home. Buffalo are majestic animals and taste good too, i metioned thst to one that was blpcking the road for 3 minutes while in park. Updated in day or so.
We have beautiful country.
Sounds like a great trip. I really need to take a trip to AMERICA some day.
 

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Wyoming requires a ccw... no open carry that I could find (PA license covers you there) im on my way to WY now, lga to denver...if we get an aircraft.... then to casper.

The gun check-in was easy enough, got 8 nice officers and a Sgt. To escort me to tsa, talked guns, may have a new competitor even!
 
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Hi all, we are currently in Rapid City, SD. Going up to Mt. Rushmore before hitting road back home.
In Zion NPk we did minor trails 1st day, 2nd we hit the Narrows and Emerald pool. Angel is on next trip there next fall with a permit to do Submarine. You have to apply for a permit 3 to 4 months in advance and from what I hear it's a 7 hour hike. We didn't bring a 2nd pair of shoes for the Narrows which I would highly recommend. You have to walk in the Virgin river and it never got more than knee high.
And we going to Havasupia Falls with Zion next year. The walk is 8 miles at 8% down grade. Good news is if yourto tired to hike back you can pay $80. for helicopter ride back to the top. It's on an Indian Reservation and the camp grounds are nook up to a year in advance.
In Yellowstone it's a beautiful park, everything is wide spread. We entered thru the Western gate, I exchanged my Zion entrance fee with Yellowstones for an Amnual pass for $20. dollars more and it good in all National parks for 2 year. Mt.Rushmore free today. We went to Mammoth and Canary springs. Beatiful. It is very time consuming driving around park. We had Mule deer run into us, and we got caught in 6 mile long traffic jam. It started with Elk and Bison moving into the grazing areas. Peopl just stop and get out to photograph aniamals and we caugjt in bison herd moving across road. They are magnificent animals. But they take no heed to you and just move and stop right in front of you vehicle. The rangers keep moving them with there cars to get them off the roads. This took 3 1/2 hours to go 3 miles. We left yhe park to stay at the BWP in Cody, Wyoming. Day 2 we went back to Grand Prismatic Springs and Old Faithful, which since the earthquake 2 years ago has offset the timing and made the more off. But it erupted 45 minutes after we arrived. The park has some 38 to 40 million visitors, alot of foreigners, so don't expect to get anyway fast in the park. Most of the speed limits are 25 to 45, and they are working on the roadway up by Mammoth spring and it escort 1 lane, plan another 45 minute delay.
We are usin my 2014 Ram 1500 Crew. We place all our luggage in plastic 50 gallon bags, make them clear. I have a locking roll cover. We hit high winds with heavy rain in front of tornados thru southern Indiana and in Colorado hail and heavy rain just ahead of the thunder storms there. The National weather alerts were going off late afternoon and there we telling poeple to seek shelter.
I'll update later everyone getting up and we going to get moving. I have no carry rights in Minnesota and Illinois so firearm will go back in lock box today.
God bless all and hopefully I can update later.
 

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Great trip. I'm envious. Stay safe and enjoy the rest of it. I've been to a lot of the places you've visited and it is beautiful and quiet in that part of the country. I traveled from Salt Lake City to Denver on the backroads. Great ride through the mountains and deserts in between.
 

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Yes, this was squared away a few years ago when some parks were making up their own rules. They were taken to court and it was established that the governing authority was the state law. Oh, the NRA doesn't do anything.... Well, they did
 

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Yes snd i have carried in parks even hiking. Took that in to consideration when choosing firearm. SS PPKS in nylon concealed holster, incase I fell in water.
No in anti firearm Illinois gun in lock box.
What sad is even my wife doesn't undstand gun laws. She met me hallway and hand me lockbox and said you better take this I'm not allowed to have this.
I replied we are in a free country outside NY, where handling a firearm is not a crime. That's only on NY.
This is the culture and mjnd set that is instilled in people that are overburden by state laws...going to hit the road back to NY. Update later
 
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Mt. Rushmore National memorial has private parking concession company running it so you have to pay $11 for parking and it's good for 1 year. It's a 3 level parking garage.
We finally got home at 2:30 am. We traveled 917 miles the last day, Rockford, Il., to Coram, with a stop in Brentwood. Total of 7533 mile with 129 hours of total driving with and average of 56mph and 16.9 mpg. Gas prices varied between 1.73.9 in Indians to 3.029 in Klamath Ca. Also fill your vehicle in towns outside park areas for better prices, gasbuddy.com is good at finding best prices, and you don't know what will happen in drive thru parks.
The first 3 days my wife and I winged it. Rooms were pretty easy to find. We hit 60 to 80 mph crosswinds in southern Indiana in front of huge thunder storm. I got in behind milk tanker who was doing 55mph in torrental downpour and up to 70 mph crosswinds, for 30 miles, and we finally got in front of storm. Outside Colorado Springs we hit pea size hail, we slowed to 40 mph and drove thru for another 10 miles then had to put up with rain for another 10 miles. Enroute to Telluride, Co. outside Gunnison,Co. we came across a makeshift tent city for about 700 fire jumper and found out there were wild fires in area and all rooms for 150 miles around were taken. So we napped for 3 hours in a HIE parking lot next to McDonald's. We met up with my son and his girlfriend who were in Telliride for his friends wedding. It's a pretty little town, where hiking and mountain biking goes on when there no snow on the ground. Be warned its a dead end town with 1 road in and it ends in the town. The tram is free and takes you to the top of the mountain and scenery is beautiful.
The rest of our trip where we visiting Parks we booked rooms in different hotels back in late May. And it's a good thing we did, there were no available, few toyed with idea of staying 1 more day, but there was no rooms anywhere.
The trip home, depending on when we got started, we pick the distant we wanted to go and book rooms as we drove.
Also we picked up a Verizon pre paid phone from Walmart before we left. A Samsung J3, so we could use google map, it was $90. With $45 unlimited talk, text, and 2 G data. Good thing Sprint had no service in most of Wyoming and all of S. Dakota once we left the Rapid City.
 

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Thanks for an interesting and inspiring travelog. I'm either doing the same trip or Ireland next year depending on finances and time.
 
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