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Police Chief Dean M. Esserman says, "...the scene was made safe."

Which implies the scene must have been unsafe. How was it unsafe?

If he was carrying concealed, how was the pistol detected?
 

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"The gun was recovered"...Was it lost?

"The scene was made safe"...Implying it was unsafe? When?

and of course the wonderful words of the Mayor:
"just because something is legal, doesn't make it right"

Maybe, maybe not but if it's legal, it should not result in arrest. If I'm not mistaken he just said (implied) that Sung-Ho Hwang was arrested for doing something that was completely legal. Hmmm...that should play out well, considering the accused is an attorney too...
 

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He was a lawyer....

The president-elect of the New Haven Bar Association was arrested Tuesday night after allegedly bringing a loaded handgun into a Connecticut movie theater during a showing of "The Dark Knight Rises," New Haven police said.

Sung Ho Hwang, 46, an attorney, was arrested and charged with breach of peace and interfering with police.

Officials said concerned moviegoers Tuesday spotted Hwang walking into the Criterion Bow-Tie Cinema with a holstered gun and called police.

More than 20 officers responded, and patrons were asked to raise their hands and file out of the theater. As they exited, they were patted down and escorted outside.

"All I can see in my head is these long assault rifles being pointed at me," recalled moviegoer Porsche Edmundson as she found herself surrounded by police. "I was like, 'OK, just breathe and go real slow, real slow because you don't know what the hell is going on.'"

When the officers found Hwang, they drew their weapons and ordered him to put his hands up. Police said Hwang remained in his seat using his cell phone and did not comply with the officers' commands.

He was taken into custody by force, and officers were then able to remove the loaded handgun from the waistband at the small of his back, police said.

Hwang has a valid permit to carry a pistol in Connecticut.

At a press conference Wednesday, Hwang said he took a gun with him to the late-night showing of the movie because he was going alone and wanted to protect himself.

"There is no posting at Criterion that states that weapons are not permitted," said Hwang. "As far as the law is concerned, I have a right to carry there."

Officer David B Hartman, media liaison for New Haven police, told the New Haven Independent that Hwang made a "bad choice" in bringing the gun to the theater, but he was charged for being uncooperative, not for being armed.

Hwang insisted he was "cooperative" and that he followed the police officers' directions.

After the mass shooting at the midnight showing of the "Dark Knight Rises" in Aurora, Colo., New Haven police increased patrols at the Criterion Cinema, which was the only New Haven theater showing the movie at the time.

Hwang said he understood theaters were in a heightened state of security since the Aurora shootings, and added that he did not think the patrons did anything wrong but that he thought police should also protect the Second Amendment.

Police said there were no prior threats at the theater.

Since the Colorado shootings, several instances of people bringing weapons to showings of the film have been reported across the country.

Over the weekend, a man in northeast Ohio brought a gun, ammunition and several knives to a screening because he wanted to protect himself in case someone tried to replicate the shooting, his attorney said. The man was arrested.
 

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I wonder how much its going to cost" new haven" ( is that a city or a play on words) to settle with a lawer?
 

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Certainly there was no reason for him not to cooperate in the first place, even if he was within his rights. When the police ordered everyone to stand up and file out, he remaining sitting and didn't comply. That's why they hit him with 2 BS misdemeanors.

I'm curious that if he was carrying concealed, and it was in the small of his back, how did someone see it ?
 

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I was hoping this was a story about popcorn!
 

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Hawg did a poor job concealing...New Haven PD over reacted... IMHO

http://www.ct.gov/bfpe/lib/bfpe/laws_pertaining_to_firearms_2002.pdf

Carry/Transporting Handguns
Q36. Does my permit to carry pistols and revolvers permit me to carry on my
person?
A. Yes. However, mature judgment dictates that every effort should be made to make
sure that no gun is exposed to view or carried in any manner that would tend to alarmpeople who see it. When your gun becomes visible so as to cause alarm, and the police
are called, your permit to carry is placed in jeopardy of revocation.
Q37. Does my permit to carry pistols and revolvers permit me to carry a handgun
anywhere, anytime?
A. No. Mature judgment dictates that no handgun be carried unless carrying the gun at
the time and place involved is prudent and proper in the circumstances. For example,
handguns should not be carried:
1. Into a bar or other place where alcohol is being consumed.
2. In any situation involving stress such as an argument.
3. After consuming alcohol or any drugs other than those legally prescribed.
4. In any building where either house of the general assembly is located, or in which the office of
any member, officer, employee, or committee is located, or where a committee of the general
assembly is holding a meeting.
5. Any building residential or commercial whose owner prohibits handguns
 

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Where are the list of usual suspects here that start with the "he was asking for trouble" and "got what he deserved" comments?

Or does he get a pass from those comments because he was a lawyer and not an IT guy or an 18 year old?
 

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I'll say it. It was poor judgement and got what he deserved. Concealed means concealed, if they saw the thing, it wasn't concealed. See how logic works?
 

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Concealed means concealed.
Agreed....

BUT, some clown mayor saying its 'not right' when he did nothing illegal is just F.....

Now we need to know the facts of what happened in the theater - did he actually not comply? or did he sit there stunned and confused with 8 maniacs screaming in his face - one to "put your hands up!" andother to "get on the floor", and another "move and I'll blow your head off!" and the rest of the gibberish lost in the noise... as we have seen with other overreactions.
 

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Sung Ho Hwang, 46, an attorney, was arrested and charged with breach of peace and interfering with police.
Hhhmmm...... seems to me there was no "breach of peace" until the police stormed the theater.....

More than 20 officers responded, and patrons were asked to raise their hands and file out of the theater. As they exited, they were patted down and escorted outside.
Had them all raise their hands?.... in a room full of people wouldn't that help HIDE any furtive movements???
Then it seems to contradict itself when they say they "found" Hwang, but they also said he stayed in his seat.. so its not like he was hiding or evading... (shrug)

At a press conference Wednesday, Hwang said he took a gun with him to the late-night showing of the movie because he was going alone and wanted to protect himself.
Bad answer IMO - "I took my gun because I have a LICENSE TO CARRY IT, and I carry it everywhere I legally can"

So far the thing sounds stupid on all sides....
 

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Agreed....

BUT, some clown mayor saying its 'not right' when he did nothing illegal is just F.....

Now we need to know the facts of what happened in the theater - did he actually not comply? or did he sit there stunned and confused with 8 maniacs screaming in his face - one to "put your hands up!" andother to "get on the floor", and another "move and I'll blow your head off!" and the rest of the gibberish lost in the noise... as we have seen with other overreactions.
Stupid comments wont stand up in court.

If you want to carry...go ahead and carry, because it's only a matter of time before there was a repeat of the tragedies in CO but if your not going to fully conceal your firearm expect consequences.

The issue here is that most people wouldn't notice a giant 45 foot Pink Bunny in a room full of crowded people...but they will notice the bunny if that bunny's cousin ate a whole bunch of people somewhere else. People are on high alert.
 

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OC is legal in CT though - FYI.
 

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Interesting. First news of this indicated he was carrying illegally... now it's legally...
 

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Sound like they are just looking to break his chops cause they received phone calls he had a gun. Do I think he was wrong NO but maybe yes its best not to print when caring concealed obviously he had the gun in view so the calls went to police who had to intervene. This just caused a big mess. Is he guilty probably not but concealed carry mean concealed.
 
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