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NYSRPA v. Nigrelli (CCIA Lawsuit) originally Bruen 2


NYSRPA v. Nigrelli (CCIA Lawsuit) originally Bruen 2​
THIS IS AN URGENT MESSAGE FROM TOM KING!

IF YOU MEET THE CRITERIA: ACT NOW!
NYSRPA v. Nigrelli (CCIA Lawsuit)
originally NYSRPA vs Bruen 2

The NYSRPA is looking for individuals, who meet the requirements listed below, to join our challenge. Please respond to this email with your name and contact information if you are interested in becoming a plaintiff in the lawsuit and meet any of these requirements:​
  1. Submitted after September 1, 2022 an application for a carry license and that application was denied.
  2. Submitted after September 1, 2022, an application for a carry license and that application is still pending.
  3. Possess an unrestricted carry license and desire to carry a firearm into any of these locations:

1. A place controlled by the federal, state, or local government that is used for government administration.
2. Public transit (bus, ferry, train, subway, etc.);
3. Library, public playground, public park, zoo, nursery or childcare center, or summer camp.
4. A mental health or addiction facility or place for individuals with developmental disabilities.
5. A homeless or domestic violence shelter.
6. A senior center.
7. Theater, sports stadium or arena, racetrack, museum, banquet hall, or casino.

All responders should not otherwise be prohibited from obtaining a carry permit.

Thank you all for your support and time is of the essence.

Tom King
Cogito ergo armatum sum​
 

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NYSRPA v. Nigrelli (CCIA Lawsuit) originally Bruen 2


NYSRPA v. Nigrelli (CCIA Lawsuit) originally Bruen 2​
THIS IS AN URGENT MESSAGE FROM TOM KING!

IF YOU MEET THE CRITERIA: ACT NOW!
NYSRPA v. Nigrelli (CCIA Lawsuit)
originally NYSRPA vs Bruen 2

The NYSRPA is looking for individuals, who meet the requirements listed below, to join our challenge. Please respond to this email with your name and contact information if you are interested in becoming a plaintiff in the lawsuit and meet any of these requirements:
  1. Submitted after September 1, 2022 an application for a carry license and that application was denied.
  2. Submitted after September 1, 2022, an application for a carry license and that application is still pending.
  3. Possess an unrestricted carry license and desire to carry a firearm into any of these locations:

1. A place controlled by the federal, state, or local government that is used for government administration.
2. Public transit (bus, ferry, train, subway, etc.);
3. Library, public playground, public park, zoo, nursery or childcare center, or summer camp.
4. A mental health or addiction facility or place for individuals with developmental disabilities.
5. A homeless or domestic violence shelter.
6. A senior center.
7. Theater, sports stadium or arena, racetrack, museum, banquet hall, or casino.

All responders should not otherwise be prohibited from obtaining a carry permit.

Thank you all for your support and time is of the essence.

Tom King
Cogito ergo armatum sum​
Is this legit? I don't see anything about it on the NYSRPA website.
 

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But what makes someone a "good" plaintiff? I think every permit holder and applicant has been wronged here.
Absolutely, but this isn't like signing up people with mesothelioma so we can sue the asbestos people and then spread the money around. This is a constitutional right that everyone should enjoy, even those who have chosen not to exercise it. Why go through the trouble of signing up thousands of gun owners when you just need a one or a few to win?

With this in mind, a lot of factors can go into what makes a good plaintiff such as background, geography, free time, money, communication skills, etc. For example, I live in a neighborhood with zero crime and had a Full Carry license for years, so I wouldn't have made a good candidate for the Bruen case. A NYC nurse who has been assaulted a few times and keeps getting denied a carry permit is a better choice. To use another example, let's say we wanted to challenge the SAFE Act. Would it be better to get a guy with 5 registered ARs and a bunch of evil features upstate, or would a Maryland resident who owns no rifles under a more draconian law be better?

Beyond that, I would imagine the attorneys in this case have a good idea of what they are looking for.
 

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Absolutely, but this isn't like signing up people with mesothelioma so we can sue the asbestos people and then spread the money around. This is a constitutional right that everyone should enjoy, even those who have chosen not to exercise it. Why go through the trouble of signing up thousands of gun owners when you just need a one or a few to win?

With this in mind, a lot of factors can go into what makes a good plaintiff such as background, geography, free time, money, communication skills, etc. For example, I live in a neighborhood with zero crime and had a Full Carry license for years, so I wouldn't have made a good candidate for the Bruen case. A NYC nurse who has been assaulted a few times and keeps getting denied a carry permit is a better choice. To use another example, let's say we wanted to challenge the SAFE Act. Would it be better to get a guy with 5 registered ARs and a bunch of evil features upstate, or would a Maryland resident who owns no rifles under a more draconian law be better?

Beyond that, I would imagine the attorneys in this case have a good idea of what they are looking for.
Thanks. That clarifies things a great deal.
 

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I saw a video tonight that SCOTUS gave NYS an extension in Gazzola v. Hochul until March 29, 2023 when they asked for April 10th. The thought was SCOTUS is waiting for the 2nd Circuit to act before intervening.
 

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NYS/LeTush's 2nd Circuit Appeal brief against Christian/FPA (private property provision) is in. Starts off of course arguing lack of standing; then discusses what era's laws and practices are allowed/excluded by Bruen;
Pathetically tries to use the new New Jersey law as 'proof' that laws like CCIA are 'common' - "For the same reason, plaintiffs are wrong to focus on the purported “outlier” status of New York’s present-day law. ... New York is not alone in regulating concealed carry on private property. ... To the contrary, New Jersey has recently enacted a law similar to the private-property provision. "
 

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NYS/LeTush's 2nd Circuit Appeal brief against Christian/FPA (private property provision) is in. Starts off of course arguing lack of standing; then discusses what era's laws and practices are allowed/excluded by Bruen;
Pathetically tries to use the new New Jersey law as 'proof' that laws like CCIA are 'common' - "For the same reason, plaintiffs are wrong to focus on the purported “outlier” status of New York’s present-day law. ... New York is not alone in regulating concealed carry on private property. ... To the contrary, New Jersey has recently enacted a law similar to the private-property provision. "
And Judge Bumb in this New Jersey case issued a TRO on the enforcement of the private property provision as well as many of the sensitive locations declaring them unconstitutional. They conveniently forgot to mention that. They know they are in trouble. They are reaching for anything they can
 
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