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Anyone have any tips?  I was at the Brookhaven range this past weekend trying to sight in my Axis and I couldn't even see the laser to even try.  I tried doing it the old fashioned way but after a few shots not even hitting paper I gave up. :-/
 

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When in doubt move in, and keep moving in until you see the shot or hit paper. I can't remember the name of the lazer bore sighter I use, but I set it up in the basement and never had trouble at the range.
If you need a hand or would like to try it one evening PM me no problem.
 

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Unless you go for a higher price laser, you won't see it at any distance outdoors. What distance were you shooting? Are you on paper at closer distance?

If you're really far off, pick something on the berm, like a discarded shotgun shell, and have someone else watch to see where you are hitting. You may be able to see it yourself if you zoom the scope all the way out.
 

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Unless you go for a higher price laser, you won't see it at any distance outdoors. What distance were you shooting? Are you on paper at closer distance?

If you're really far off, pick something on the berm, like a discarded shotgun shell, and have someone else watch to see where you are hitting. You may be able to see it yourself if you zoom the scope all the way out.
I previously sighted for 30yds (at MF, so indoors/no sun problem) and could hit paper easily. I was attempting to hit a large target @ 100yds, I could hit paper sometimes, but with zero consistency. Some shots were okay, some where nowhere to be found. I honestly couldn't even figure out where my shots were going.
 

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When in doubt move in, and keep moving in until you see the shot or hit paper. I can't remember the name of the lazer bore sighter I use, but I set it up in the basement and never had trouble at the range.
If you need a hand or would like to try it one evening PM me no problem.
Problem with Brookhaven is that the back of the range is just sand, so there's no indication other than a puff of sand on impact, and with a little wind it is far from reliable. :(
 

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When you say "..some shots were OK..." does that mean that some shots landed on paper?
If that's the case, your scope mounts maybe loose, or your scope's reticle is drifting, which can happen even with good scopes. Don't discount a defective scope.
Also, if you're zeroed at 30, the shots will be low at 100. At Mitchell you aim up to the target, at brookhaven you level with the target. You should zero an inch high at 50, then you shoud be just about right at 100.
 

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Is this the same scope you sent back to Bushnell?
Yes :(

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When you say "..some shots were OK..." does that mean that some shots landed on paper?
If that's the case, your scope mounts maybe loose, or your scope's reticle is drifting, which can happen even with good scopes. Don't discount a defective scope.
Also, if you're zeroed at 30, the shots will be low at 100. At Mitchell you aim up to the target, at brookhaven you level with the target. You should zero an inch high at 50, then you shoud be just about right at 100.
Yes, some landed on paper, albeit VERY low. I did a quick field check of the mounts and they seemed alright (this was my first thought), although I did not bring my leatherman to tighten the mounts and to confirm that they were tight. They seemed OK.

I tried aiming at a closer piece of wood, approx 20 feet away (bolt open of course), and I got different results... laser seemed to go right, then I'd try to pinpoint it on the paper @ 100yds, couldn't find it, went back to the wood, the laser was at a different point, approximately 2 o'clock vs. the 3 o'clock on the previous check.

Who knows :-/ I ended up just switching to my 10/22 since that was sighted nicely.
 

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Let me know the next time you go to Brookhaven, or, I MAY be going to MF tonight. I can bring my old-fashioned optical(?) bore sighter.
 

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haha I'm not sure when the next time I'm going to head out to BH, it was about 1.25 hrs away from me :-\ but if I know ahead of time I'll definitely post :)  Thanks for the offers
 

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If your not hitting paper, set the rifle up so it won't move (i.e. lead sled, bipod, sand bags...etc) At 100yds, look down range and send it. Note the impact on the burm, WITHOUT moving the rifle, adjust the scope crosshairs to where the round impacted. That should get you on paper, then just make your final adjustments. I've never used a laser boresighter. This has always worked for me.
 

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Unless it's a green laser you will never see a laser during daylight at 100 yard maybe not even 50. Bore sight in a indoor range with the red laser.

How do you like the AXIS! looking into getting one myself in 30-06 but putting a Nikon on it not that bushnell I can't see that being a good optic.
 

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See if you can have a friend come with you.

Pick out an aim point and shoot the berm.

Have your friend dial in the scope.

If you are familiar with the MOA adjustment on your scope you should be on paper with just a few shots.
 

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Where there is a will there is a way: get some of that safety reflector tape. The type they use on clothes, you can sometimes find it in bicycle stores. Put a piece of that up on the board, and start waiving the laser around. The material is so reflective it should pick up the beam even in daylight.
 

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The one and only T Webb helped me bore site a rifle with a regular borsighter on a hot sunny day and it brought the rifle to zero right quick.
I have a grren laser and tried it outdoors the past weekend. Couldn't see it at all. Not even on the pistol side. But it was very bright and sunny.
 

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Try rose (actually red) colored shades. They may help you see the laser better.

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There should be no reason you can't bore sight at 100-yrds without a laser everytime unless you are using sub A4 paper. Step back from the rifle and the FOV narrows even more. Trigger control is also critical given the scope for error.
 
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