I had similar thought. I cant remember all my "social" accounts. Most I never really used.
Back to MYspace days.
Back to MYspace days.
Any carry permits issued yet?
Has Suffolk issued any carry permits yet?
I know a course is required.
Thanks!
M.
I know a course is required.
Thanks!
M.
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A friend told me he dropped off his 18 hour certificate, today, at SCPD. They took his $5 "amendment fee," then told him "We'll call you." No time frame, anymore, just, "we'll call you." He was laughing his head off.
Gary
Gary
We have to laugh, it is so ridiculous. I remember dropping a $5 check in July 2022. SCPD was suppose to email me requirements to upgrade. Crickets. Gives you an idea how long this has been going on. Hopefully I have about 3 more weeks. Have a good weekend fellas.
Although I am not in Nassau, I did take a look at the definition of a carry license defined in the Nassau handbook.
It's interesting their first statement reads:
4. Concealed Carry License:
a. Authorizes the licensee to carry a firearm at all times in New York State, except in all five boroughs of the City of New York, for the purpose of self-protection.
Later on, it says:
NOTE: You will be required to sign for a copy of ‘Sensitive/Restrictive Locations’, as determined by the governor of New York State, which prohibits you from carrying your firearm(s) in specific locations. You must also be familiar with New York State Penal Law 265.01-e, a class E Felony, if you are caught in any one of certain areas which have been deemed ‘Sensitive/Restrictive Locations’. You will also be required, as mandated by the Governor of NYS, to sign for a copy of a WARNING describing your responsibility for the ‘safe storage of firearms’.
Putting both statements together, are they differentiating the inside of your car and sensitive restrictive locations as two different entities/locations?
Any legal feedback would be appreciated.
It's interesting their first statement reads:
4. Concealed Carry License:
a. Authorizes the licensee to carry a firearm at all times in New York State, except in all five boroughs of the City of New York, for the purpose of self-protection.
Later on, it says:
NOTE: You will be required to sign for a copy of ‘Sensitive/Restrictive Locations’, as determined by the governor of New York State, which prohibits you from carrying your firearm(s) in specific locations. You must also be familiar with New York State Penal Law 265.01-e, a class E Felony, if you are caught in any one of certain areas which have been deemed ‘Sensitive/Restrictive Locations’. You will also be required, as mandated by the Governor of NYS, to sign for a copy of a WARNING describing your responsibility for the ‘safe storage of firearms’.
Putting both statements together, are they differentiating the inside of your car and sensitive restrictive locations as two different entities/locations?
Any legal feedback would be appreciated.
Just to add to the confusion….. the CCIA authorizes individuals to leave their unloaded handgun in the car in a safe that is secured to the vehicle. However, Nassau Pistol licensing specifically prohibits licensees from leaving weapons in the car.
Just to add to the confusion….. the CCIA authorizes individuals to leave their unloaded handgun in the car in a safe that is secured to the vehicle. However, Nassau Pistol licensing specifically prohibits licensees from leaving weapons in the car.
Yes, and in spite of the restricted locations, Nassau still validates stopping for refreshments with only one limitation of alcohol.
: Licensees are authorized to stop only for fuel, nonalcoholic refreshments and/or a meal on the way to and from their lawful target shooting location or hunting area. Licensees are authorized to do this only during the period between leaving their residence and arriving at the lawful shooting/hunting destination or during the return trip. A licensee is not authorized to take his or her firearm to any establishment used primarily for alcohol consumption. A licensee is not authorized to conduct any other non-target shooting or hunting activity while in possession of his or her firearm. In the event a licensee does break for fuel, a refreshment or a meal, he or she is responsible for the concealment and safeguarding of the firearm.
Suffolk took this out of their handbook for their Dwelling license.
interesting….so you can stop for gas/food when going to and from range but you can’t with a CCW if you are not traveling to and from the range. I will repeat what I always say….. every time a gun crime is committed the answer is more gun control which only criminalizes lawful gun ownership. Simply turning lawful gun owners into felons.
Am I correct in thinking you can stop for gas, etc. But only if the property has a firearms welcome sign. It's very different from the old sportsman. By the way, today is 3 months since I handed in my certificate. I started that course week before Thanksgiving. Frustrating.
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It coming soon, just picked up my carry yesterday. As mentioned my drop-off was 11/17. Note, the expiration date is not the date you pick up your new carry but 3 years from the date of your original sportsman-issued license. For me, that's an additional 5 months added to the 3 years.Am I correct in thinking you can stop for gas, etc. But only if the property has a firearms welcome sign. It's very different from the old sportsman. By the way, today is 3 months since I handed in my certificate. I started that course week before Thanksgiving. Frustrating.
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Correct...or if you have the express verbal permission of the owner/operator/lessee or otherwise know that firearms are permitted there. It doesn't specifically have to be a sign and that sign doesn't have to say specific language.Am I correct in thinking you can stop for gas, etc. But only if the property has a firearms welcome sign. It's very different from the old sportsman. By the way, today is 3 months since I handed in my certificate. I started that course week before Thanksgiving. Frustrating.
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I don't know what the handbook used to say, but it sounds like the old Sportsman to me. The handbook is the PD making its own rules for the licensee in addition to whatever state law requires.
I’m as concerned about stopping for gas and getting caught carrying a handgun on the same level as stopping for gas and getting hit by a meteor. You’d have to have a lot of things go wrong that are your own fault. Thirty years of doing so and never once even close to an incident. Plus if everything possible did go wrong I’d see them in court.
During the hunting season I posted a Green Sign for allowing Firearms on Restricted Property for Lawful Purposes since I had people hunting on my land. Written permission is still the best to have whenever you are on private property.Correct...or if you have the express verbal permission of the owner/operator/lessee or otherwise know that firearms are permitted there. It doesn't specifically have to be a sign and that sign doesn't have to say specific language.
I don't know what the handbook used to say, but it sounds like the old Sportsman to me. The handbook is the PD making its own rules for the licensee in addition to whatever state law requires.
ViperJohn agree with you100%, but is that you should not be forced by the State to rely on your ability to conceal in order for the State to not catch you committing a class E felony. You should not be a potential felon because the State decides to constantly infringe on your Constitutional Right.
Also have we thought about the Hispanic or black 2A person who is a CCW holder doing the same thing and dealing with an unlawful pat down or pretext car stop after leaving the same gas station getting jammed up with an E felony.
Does a person also have to hesitate and think about getting arrested for lawfully using a handgun in a sensitive location?
Also have we thought about the Hispanic or black 2A person who is a CCW holder doing the same thing and dealing with an unlawful pat down or pretext car stop after leaving the same gas station getting jammed up with an E felony.
Does a person also have to hesitate and think about getting arrested for lawfully using a handgun in a sensitive location?
These scenarios you described have happened to legal gun owners. Most stem for a traffic violation and had a restricted pistol license. It all depends on the Cop, and the person with the pistol. The new law makes it very difficult especially with body cameras.ViperJohn agree with you100%, but is that you should not be forced by the State to rely on your ability to conceal in order for the State to not catch you committing a class E felony. You should not be a potential felon because the State decides to constantly infringe on your Constitutional Right.
Also have we thought about the Hispanic or black 2A person who is a CCW holder doing the same thing and dealing with an unlawful pat down or pretext car stop after leaving the same gas station getting jammed up with an E felony.
Does a person also have to hesitate and think about getting arrested for lawfully using a handgun in a sensitive location?
I was in a gas station in California, changing a flat. The place got robbed. Needless to say, I was questioned. Life happens. As we all get older, the possibility of needing medical attention increases. Imagine shopping in Kohl’s for your favorite black knee-high socks. You feel faint and collapse while illegally carrying. Lol, just saying..I’m as concerned about stopping for gas and getting caught carrying a handgun on the same level as stopping for gas and getting hit by a meteor. You’d have to have a lot of things go wrong that are your own fault. Thirty years of doing so and never once even close to an incident. Plus if everything possible did go wrong I’d see them in court.
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No one has or will be charged under this new law because its in the crosshairs. Just carry and live your life. And if someone was to get "stopped " or whatever do u really think there going to charge a person who has never been arrested with a felony i think not.
Exactly. You can live your life worrying about a million “what ifs”. I go by my own experience having a handgun license since 1992 And carrying one a thousand times.No one has or will be charged under this new law because its in the crosshairs. Just carry and live your life. And if someone was to get "stopped " or whatever do u really think there going to charge a person who has never been arrested with a felony i think not.
Of course in writing is always better in order to avoid the legal process.During the hunting season I posted a Green Sign for allowing Firearms on Restricted Property for Lawful Purposes since I had people hunting on my land. Written permission is still the best to have whenever you are on private property.
Although to be convicted they would have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that you:
1) entered or stayed on the property when you
2) did not know or "reasonably should" have known the owner/lessee has permitted guns there.
A heavy lift for the prosecution.
……..and while the case is pending you lose your license, guns, job and incur legal fees. I agree with Peconic Paladin, Sig45……. however, NY State is playing with peoples’ rights and wellbeing by continuing to keep laws on the books that can significantly impact law abiding gun owners.
Just drop off my CC diploma at SCPD and he said 5-6 months.
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