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· Grand Poobah
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Gun control advocates in Tacoma, Wash., are thinking inside the box -- literally -- with a controversial proposal to set up a gun "drop box" to encourage residents to turn in firearms, no questions asked.

The city of 203,000 has similar collection boxes for drugs, and officials say a secure, steel box can help get guns off the streets without subjecting nervous citizens to police interaction.

"The main intent and goal is just to get these weapons off the streets," Tacoma Police Chief Don Ramsdell told the The News Tribune, stressing that the program is still in its planning stages.

"Are we really expecting these people to walk down the street to this dropbox, with the gun tucked in their shorts, and drop it off? It doesn't seem to me to be a thought-out process as off right now."​
- Sgt. Jim Barrett, the president of the Tacoma Police Union​

Dubious critics say a box full of guns could prove tempting to criminals -- and that's if people actually took the city up on the offer.

"In other news: New Gun store for criminals opens in Tacoma called: The Drop Box," one person tweeted.

Tacoma Police Union President Sgt. Jim Barrett doubts the boxes will get much use.

"Are we really expecting these people to walk down the street to this drop box, with the gun tucked in their shorts, and drop it off?" he asked. "It doesn't seem to me to be a thought-out process as of right now."

A host on KIRO's "Tom and Curley Show" agreed.

"We have this need in the community to have a place where people can innocently drop guns in boxes," he continued. "Can you imagine someone walking up to the box -- right? -- look around and the put the gun in there? Can you believe anyone would do that?"

While the drug boxes are free-standing, one police official theorized that guns could be passed through a slot on the side of a building and deposited in an inaccessible area. Melissa Cordeiro, a city gang reduction project coordinator, told KIRO Radio that the guns could be placed into the box and at some point "law enforcement would swing by and pick it up out of the drop box."

The proposal follows similar attempts by cities to get illegal guns off the streets, including gun buyback programs. Cities across the country have offered residents cash, bikes and even jobs in return for handing over a firearm.

George Mason University economics professor Alex Tabarrok said those programs have been proven ineffective, and he predicted the same result for a drop box scheme. Anyone in the port city who wants to get rid of a gun discreetly, Taborrok said, has an easy option: toss it in Puget Sound.

City leaders out to reduce the number of guns on the streets largely have their hands tied, said Taborrok. Any historic gun decline in a city would only come after new gun-control policies from Washington, D.C. He said city mayors' best tool to keep crime down in a city is to increase police patrol.

"Any funds you'd use in programs like these buybacks would be much better served by adding an additional police officer," he said.

In November, Washington state passed new gun laws that call for universal background checks for all sales, including those made online or at gun shows. The measure has exceptions for emergency gun transfers concerning personal safety, gifts between family members, antiques and loans for hunting.

A federal judge in May threw out a lawsuit challenging parts of the new law that expands background checks on gun transfers, saying gun-rights activists couldn't challenge it because they aren't being prosecuted for violating it.

· Premium Member
1,114 Posts
So the gang that wears blue bandannas hides in the bushes behind the box waiting for guys in the red bandannas to drop off their guns and then knowing they are unarmed pop out and yell "surprise!!!!!!!"

Whats more likely is the homeowner who acquired a gun through less than legal means to protect his home and family in this time when legal gun ownership is increasingly more difficult and highly vilified drops his gun in the box and the gang in the red and the blue bandannas both jump out from the bushes and kill him.

· Clinger
4,810 Posts
So am I gonna assume that Tacoma has abandoned the whole "gun buy back " charade or that it just doesn't even want to give people a gift card to turn in their guns anymore.

· Zombtac Operator
12,108 Posts
How about making stolen property drop boxes?
Criminals that stole stuff can then bring it back.
Just as likely as the other things working out right?
Maybe they can cut a deal with the cartels to deliver their guns and drugs directly into drop boxes across the nation. That's progressive thinking right there. Forget about the multi billion dollar illicit industry they have going and irrational client end addiction.

Drop box is the liberal drop kick.

· Premium Member
2,628 Posts
A better idea would be to allow the people to drop thier guns off at a gun shop no questions asked and then they can hand them in to police.no worry about getting mugged on the walk to the box. Oh wait they chased all the gun shops out of the city. Back to square one.

· Registered
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So either the bins get stolen or they become return bins for criminals to deposit used guns so they aren't traced back to them. Hey they can even steal a new one from the bin to replace it with kind of the "take a penny, leave a penny" dishes.

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