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advice on a/c unit for the basement

advice on ac unit for the basement

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#1 rc328

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Posted July 23 2013 - 02:52 PM

Good day,
I Would like to thank you guys in advance, this forum has been a great resource of "trusted" information from ammo to issues at home. Thanks Again
I'm looking for a portable a\c unit for my basement, is way to hot there and I'm looking to cool it down a bit plus circulate the air . My house doesn't have central air.
I have been doing reseach for hrs and is a lot of confusing information. Any of you have any experience with portables a\c , any good brand or model that gets the job done for aprox 250-300 sqf?
i was looking at units at homedepot, loews, BJ, costco.


Thanks

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Posted July 23 2013 - 02:56 PM

Why not a ductless split system, I think that would be the best way to go. It can also provide heat and it is very quiet.
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Posted July 23 2013 - 03:08 PM

measure the window and go to PC Richards, A/C units are dime a dozen these days.
talk to the salesmen, they will steer you away from the units that don't hold up.
Remember they have to listen to their customers "OOPS" when the unit craps out

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Posted July 23 2013 - 03:15 PM

+1 ductless mini split

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Posted July 23 2013 - 03:22 PM

How big is the window?

If not large enough there's those portable ones that you can cut out an piece of plywood and put the duct there to blow out the hot air.

Here's overstock's latest stock for 250/300 (9000 btu). Remember your in a basement, so it will hold the cool air better than upstairs. No need to buy a 150000 btu unit.. : http://www.overstock...689/subcat.html



Something like this:

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Posted July 23 2013 - 03:27 PM

I've been having the same concern for a 500 sq ft home theater I've been building in a large walk out basement/lower level. The basement has 8 ft ceilings and baseboard heating so it's 35%RH in the winter/fall, but in the summer I have dehumidifiers running and they dump heat back in (there's CA upstairs so it's weird having the lower level warmer, although quite dry).

The most cost effective simple solutions I found:

1) traditional small in-window unit. In basement window well. Has to be short enough to clear the window well, and make sure you have the gravel cleared for drainage. Also you may have to build around the window opening depending on your basement window type.

small, remote control, cost effective for small area

http://www.homedepot...00#.Ue7mv20pkrg

2) Portable Air conditioners, the type with the duct like the Architect posted. Vent out the window, again maybe fineagle some carpentry and caulk to fill in the gap depending on the window configuration (and with some carpentry skills, dap and paint it should look better than the factory insert).

effective, portable, dehumidifier function, remote

http://www.homedepot...77#.Ue7mnm0pkrg

http://www.homedepot...00#.Ue7mv20pkrg

Edited by Destro, July 23 2013 - 03:29 PM.


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Posted July 23 2013 - 03:30 PM

PC RICHARDS!

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Posted July 23 2013 - 03:32 PM

Split unit

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Posted July 23 2013 - 03:40 PM

Split unit


Anyone know prices on split unit ductless installed? I already have a 30 amp 220 line run outside for it.

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Posted July 23 2013 - 03:41 PM

Anyone know prices on split unit ductless installed? I already have a 30 amp 220 line run outside for it.


Not sure the cost of the unit or labor but you are going to have to downfuse that breaker to a 2 pole 20. 99% of the time, it's a 240v 20amp condenser.
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Posted July 23 2013 - 03:44 PM

Anyone know prices on split unit ductless installed? I already have a 30 amp 220 line run outside for it.


Depends on the brand, BTU etc. around 1 to 4+ grand plus labor.

Some brands run under a grand, but if you want a Mitsubishi ductless you'll pay though they are great. Here are some examples for pricing...

http://www.air-n-wat...m/split_air.htm

https://www.acwholes...CFQai4Aod43oAyA

http://www.homedepot...46#.Ue7qfW0pkrg

Edited by Destro, July 23 2013 - 03:46 PM.

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Posted July 23 2013 - 03:51 PM

Holy crap ! Those are pretty cheap prices compared to the quote that I just got. I just had the main floor of my house done by the same guy that did my upstairs a few years ago. While he was here I asked him about a unit like that for my 22x30 garage. He gave me a price of 4K which I thought was crazy to spend. I already have heat out there, I just wanted to cool it off in this kind of weather. Guess I better get some more prices.

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Posted July 23 2013 - 04:00 PM

Holy crap ! Those are pretty cheap prices compared to the quote that I just got. I just had the main floor of my house done by the same guy that did my upstairs a few years ago. While he was here I asked him about a unit like that for my 22x30 garage. He gave me a price of 4K which I thought was crazy to spend. I already have heat out there, I just wanted to cool it off in this kind of weather. Guess I better get some more prices.


Note those are some of the lower end units. I'm not an ac guy so I don't know what those brands reps are (are they considered crap?)The mitsubishi ductless (which I had in a past house and was awesome) are not super expensive anymore either.

Here is a 12,000 BTU mitsu for $1,500 and free shipping
http://www.nationala...CFdKj4AodJFwALQ

here is a 9000 btu Mr. Slim (set of 4) for about $4,500
http://ingramswatera...CFUqk4AodgCkAMA

I guess if you throw in labor and local contractor pricing on the units and you're looking at a few grand minimum no matter what unit.

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Posted July 23 2013 - 04:01 PM

The floor units like the Architect posted work. I have one in my basement, runs just on dehumidify all the time, does a great job bringing the temp down and taking the moisture out. Mine is a Sharp Whisper Quiet model 10000 btu purchased at PC Richards. Just make sure if you go that route that it comes with enough hose to get to you basement window. The hoses that they supply are not the same dimensions as dryer vent so you will be stuck with the hardware they provide with the unit. If you have generous basement windows window units are more efficient but they just would not work out for me.

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Posted July 23 2013 - 04:02 PM

Why not a ductless split system, I think that would be the best way to go. It can also provide heat and it is very quiet.

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Posted July 23 2013 - 04:24 PM

CAP1974, on July 23 2013 - 03:56 PM, said: Why not a ductless split system, I think that would be the best way to go. It can also provide heat and it is very quiet.

. ^ This


The only reason is $$$. The OP is talking about a 250 sq foot area (small) in a house with no CAC.

You can easily cool that effectively with a nice portable air conditioner for $300-500 or even an in window $289 unit (can even look nice if the work is done right) rather than spend thousands for a small basement area.
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Posted July 23 2013 - 04:30 PM

Thanks for the replies guys, I have ordered from home depot, hopefully this should work fine.

http://www.homedepot...77#.Ue71qNjwF8E
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Posted July 23 2013 - 04:35 PM

I have a standard basement window and went to PC Richard and found a unit that fits with a little amount of woodworking to close off the sides and since it is in the back of the house next to the deck I made a small cover over it to keep the rain, snow dirt off of it, works great and since basements are cooler to begin with it cools off quickly. Reloading in A/C comfort is nice.

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Posted July 23 2013 - 04:41 PM

In the past I have used a small window ac and it's worked fine.

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Posted July 23 2013 - 04:42 PM

I use a window unit much less than those portable ones and like others said a basement doesn't heat up as fast. Just replaced it a 7-8 year old 5850btu unit with an 8000btu unit a couple weeks ago. It's just about the same size and more efficient than the old one. Got it at PC Richards.





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