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Microstamp passed in Assembly budget


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#1 SteveG

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Posted March 13 2012 - 07:01 AM

The Assembly passed thier version of the budget yesterday and it included funds for microstamping.  There is a companion bill in the Senate version along with other onerous anti gun bills such as the microstamping, mandatory storage and the usual other anti gun garbage.  Call and write your Senators TODAY.
There is no time to waste with this. Don;t leave it to the next guy.


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#2 Aquabach

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Posted March 13 2012 - 07:24 AM

Thanks for keeping us abreast of these things. Its one reason I try to check the site daily.
I sent an email to my Senator. Hopefully enough people do and it makes a difference. We have to try

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Posted March 13 2012 - 07:43 AM

Just sent an email to Ken Lavalle.

#4 FatWhiteMan

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Posted March 13 2012 - 07:47 AM


I'm confused. What good does it do to fund something if there is no law in place making it mandatory?  Or are you saying that microstamping legislation itself is part of the budget bill?

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Posted March 13 2012 - 07:51 AM

is there an article of some sort on this so I can email friends and family


It was in an email from NYSRPA.
I accidentally erased it on my blackberry on both the blackberry and the server so I can;t get you a link to it.  ANy other NYSRPA members here get the email and can please post a link? Thanks


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Posted March 13 2012 - 07:52 AM

I'm confused. What good does it do to fund something if there is no law in place making it mandatory?  Or are you saying that microstamping legislation itself is part of the budget bill?


I beleive this is a back door way of geting the legislation passed.

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Posted March 13 2012 - 08:02 AM

I'm confused. What good does it do to fund something if there is no law in place making it mandatory?  Or are you saying that microstamping legislation itself is part of the budget bill?


That's what I asked before I read the budget bill - they're NOT "funding" it - THEY HAVE ADDED THE ENTIRE MICROSTAMPING BILL INTO THE BUDGET BILL

if it passes in the budget, microstamping becomes law....  It's a backdoor way of passing this law no one wants.

particularly offensive is that the microstamp bill specifies "no fiscal implications" so it has absolutely no business anywhere near the budget.



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Posted March 13 2012 - 08:03 AM

they basically copied and pasted the MS bill into the Assembly version of the budget so they didn't have to trouble themselves with going through the proper channels.

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Posted March 13 2012 - 08:07 AM

How can something like this pass when it has nothing to do with the budget, where is the law that prevents this abuse! If there isn't, there should be!

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Posted March 13 2012 - 08:24 AM

Our freedoms require a defense from those inside and outside of this country. Including politicians who want to swap our freedoms for "safety".

Our freedoms were fought for and won by our founding fathers but the American Citizen must continue to fight to keep these freedoms.

Today it seems a lot of people think safety is freedom and are more than willing to give our government the power to "project" this sense of "safety". People want to feel safe. They don't want to be free.

This will pass because the voice of those that want to feel safe will outweigh the voice of those that want their freedoms. And the politicians will hear their voice and they will do whatever it takes to deliver.

When i first read this I jumped on it and contacted my Assemblyman, Senator, and the Governor. Others here have also. But I have to ask - how many out of the 4,500 plus members of this pro 2A forum have done this? How many gun-owners in New York will do this? This is why it will pass.

Paul

How can something like this pass when it has nothing to do with the budget, where is the law that prevents this abuse! If there isn't, there should be!




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Posted March 13 2012 - 08:37 AM

quoted form lynyrd
"But I have to ask - how many out of the 4,500 plus members of this pro 2A forum have done this? "


You want an educated guess?
Probably about 30 of the regulars.

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Posted March 13 2012 - 08:39 AM

2 questions, if this bull$hit passes, what becomes of the billions of guns that aren't micro stamped? And 2 when you say senator, are you guys emailing local reps or chucky and co? Thanks

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Posted March 13 2012 - 08:44 AM

Our freedoms require a defense from those inside and outside of this country. Including politicians who want to swap our freedoms for "safety".

Our freedoms were fought for and won by our founding fathers but the American Citizen must continue to fight to keep these freedoms.

Today it seems a lot of people think safety is freedom and are more than willing to give our government the power to "project" this sense of "safety". People want to feel safe. They don't want to be free.

This will pass because the voice of those that want to feel safe will outweigh the voice of those that want their freedoms. And the politicians will hear their voice and they will do whatever it takes to deliver.

When i first read this I jumped on it and contacted my Assemblyman, Senator, and the Governor. Others here have also. But I have to ask - how many out of the 4,500 plus members of this pro 2A forum have done this? How many gun-owners in New York will do this? This is why it will pass.

Paul


Very well put. Both your analysis on Safety vs Freedom and on why this might pass.

How hard is it to send an email to your State Representative?
If you don't know your senator go to the NY State Senate website: http://www.nysenate.gov/senators
All you have to do is input your street address and zip and they'll tell you who your senator is. Click on his/her website and  they all have contact info.
Send an email today.
Will it guarantee they vote our way?
No, but I can guarantee if you remain silent our rights will continue to disappear.



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Posted March 13 2012 - 08:44 AM

NY Senators.. not US Senators.  


please.. everyone call them!  If you don't call/write/email, you can't complain.

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Posted March 13 2012 - 08:51 AM

Contacted Raia and Flanagan - moving on to gov and dog catcher.

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Posted March 13 2012 - 08:54 AM

2 questions, if this bull$hit passes, what becomes of the billions of guns that aren't micro stamped? And 2 when you say senator, are you guys emailing local reps or chucky and co? Thanks


1)The bill only applies to guns manufactured after a future date, which is partly dependant on when the technology actually becomes available...

2)When it comes to a STATE bill, which would become STATE law, you need to contact your STATE Senator and STATE Assemblyman.

For FEDERAL bills (such as HR822) you contact your US representatives, Schumer, Gillibrand, etc.


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Posted March 13 2012 - 09:01 AM


1)The bill only applies to guns manufactured after a future date, which is partly dependant on when the technology actually becomes available...

2)When it comes to a STATE bill, which would become STATE law, you need to contact your STATE Senator and STATE Assemblyman.

For FEDERAL bills (such as HR822) you contact your US representatives, Schumer, Gillibrand, etc.


Thanks, I'm on it today. Aquabach sent me a link.


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Posted March 13 2012 - 09:04 AM

Thanks Steve. Reaching out to Jeff Klein. Not that it will help, but I'll feel better. I think.....

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Posted March 13 2012 - 09:15 AM

For the uninformed, what exactly is this microstamping issue and what is most troubling about it? I am planning on emailing and calling my Senator (Huntington resident) Carl L Marcellino....

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Posted March 13 2012 - 09:16 AM

E-mails sent...




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