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#21 Parashooter

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Posted May 17 2012 - 04:47 PM


Then he owes a lot of people refunds!


No.. NY State owes the refunds... His accountant told him to collect sales tax, and so he did.


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Posted May 17 2012 - 04:53 PM


No.. NY State owes the refunds... His accountant told him to collect sales tax, and so he did.


Correct, under the assumption the he actually forwarded everything he was supposed to....

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Posted May 17 2012 - 05:27 PM

Im so confused! Lets say a ffl charges $45.00 for a tarnsfer now they have to ring $45.00 in the register and in sales how is that $45.00 not subject to NYS sales tax. Please explain.

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Posted May 17 2012 - 06:18 PM


Correct, under the assumption the he actually forwarded everything he was supposed to....


Really...
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Posted May 17 2012 - 06:32 PM

Im so confused! Lets say a ffl charges $45.00 for a tarnsfer now they have to ring $45.00 in the register and in sales how is that $45.00 not subject to NYS sales tax. Please explain.


Read the end of the article. NY does not list it as a service for which sales taxes are to be paid (or collected). Now given that other friendly FFLs have collected these taxes, sent them to NYS and deducted them from revenue on which fed taxes were paid, this should suck unless you are an accountant.
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#26 TJ Ironhorse

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Posted December 14 2018 - 07:41 PM

Brian used to charge full tax on the gun.


Then anyone who transfered a gun through Brian was a fool. Sorry, but thats the way I see it.

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Posted December 14 2018 - 09:19 PM

Looking at the people who posted on this thread was like walking down memory lane.


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Posted December 15 2018 - 11:23 PM

This is why background checks should be free of charge.

 

Question to any FFLs (if any): Does the state and or feds charge you a fee/surcharge to perform checks? If yes, what is the reason/rationale?



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Posted December 16 2018 - 08:12 AM

My LGS never charged me tax on any FFL transfer. He is one of the few I know that doesn't charge over $10 on a Safe Act private sale of a long gun or handguns.

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Posted December 16 2018 - 11:11 AM

This is why background checks should be free of charge.

 

Question to any FFLs (if any): Does the state and or feds charge you a fee/surcharge to perform checks? If yes, what is the reason/rationale?

 

Some states do charge a fee.  Neither NY or the Feds do.  BUT, we are required to pay a wage to the employee who does the check.  There are employment taxes, a variety of workers comp, disability, paid family leave, liability and other insurance we need to pay plus depending on the size of the business maybe medical insurance as well.  Plus the cost of the computer, paperwork and permanent storage costs plus electric, rent heat, etc.  Also keep in mind that for pistols in NY, we have a whole additional set of paperwork that needs to be done.  The process for a face to face pistol transfer can take between a half hour an hour to process.  While it would be nice to offer our services for free, it's simply not feasible.


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Posted December 16 2018 - 01:05 PM

Some states do charge a fee.  Neither NY or the Feds do.  BUT, we are required to pay a wage to the employee who does the check.  There are employment taxes, a variety of workers comp, disability, paid family leave, liability and other insurance we need to pay plus depending on the size of the business maybe medical insurance as well.  Plus the cost of the computer, paperwork and permanent storage costs plus electric, rent heat, etc.  Also keep in mind that for pistols in NY, we have a whole additional set of paperwork that needs to be done.  The process for a face to face pistol transfer can take between a half hour an hour to process.  While it would be nice to offer our services for free, it's simply not feasible.

how much are your transfers?
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#32 TJ Ironhorse

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Posted December 16 2018 - 04:32 PM

My LGS never charged me tax on any FFL transfer. He is one of the few I know that doesn't charge over $10 on a Safe Act private sale of a long gun or handguns.


Please share who the FFL is. Im certain many of us would give our business to them, simply because they do the right thing with transfers. Customers are earned. Something many LGS dont seem to understand.
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Posted December 17 2018 - 09:23 AM

This is why background checks should be free of charge.

 

Question to any FFLs (if any): Does the state and or feds charge you a fee/surcharge to perform checks? If yes, what is the reason/rationale?

 

Neither the state or the feds charge any direct or indirect fees. However, the FFL must pay for the phone time, the use of equipment and the time of the employee, to perform the check, which always costs more than the $10 allowed by statute. The only indirect charges, made by the states and the feds, are the costs of the dealer's licenses and the taxes they must pay, on the employee's salaries, while they perform those NICS checks.

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Posted December 17 2018 - 12:41 PM

Please share who the FFL is. Im certain many of us would give our business to them, simply because they do the right thing with transfers. Customers are earned. Something many LGS dont seem to understand.

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#35 Fully loaded

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Posted December 19 2018 - 07:52 PM

My LGS never charged me tax on any FFL transfer. He is one of the few I know that doesn't charge over $10 on a Safe Act private sale of a long gun or handguns.

Hey bud can u please send me his info also. I appreciate it




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