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[SydneyH]

Agreed.
Brian doesn't have the best people skills in the world, but he has been an ardent 2A supporter.
Unfortunately, if the ATF and SCPD got involved, it does not bode well for Guns and Ammo.
There is no apparent vendetta motive like there was with the Nassau gun dealers.

No matter what, innocent until proven guilty. Brian may not always have been the most endearing person on occasion, but he still deserves a fair shake. He has ALWAYS been supportive of 2A rights and 2A rights organizations, giving time and money to the cause.

[BLAMMO]

ATF doesn't swoop in unless there's a reason to. ...

Of course not. They would never do that. [/sarc]

Gotta be a Federal / regulatory beef. SCPD likely just involved for support, cooperation and reciprocity. After all, he's got to be held in custody somewhere and I don't know of a Federal detention center in Suffolk, so he's probably in Riverhead.

[OH UNCLE PAUL]

Of course not. They would never do that. [/sarc]

Gotta be a Federal / regulatory beef. SCPD likely just involved for support, cooperation and reciprocity. After all, he's got to be held in custody somewhere and I don't know of a Federal detention center in Suffolk, so he's probably in Riverhead.

Could also be the result of a SCPD investigation that they knew would lead to ATF so they called them in.
Got to be carefull who you sell to.  Not everyone who rides a Harley is a good guy.
ETA anything I say should be viewed as pure conjecture.
It'll come out soon enough.

[OH UNCLE PAUL]

Your right, I'm going to need pepto..

We don't remove any info..

I do recall the curtailing of the threads when the Nassau debacle went down. Things were pulled then. You can put down the pink stuff, for whatever reason I'm playing nice.
Maybe I'm just in a good mood.

[BLAMMO]

Could also be the result of a SCPD investigation that they knew would lead to ATF so they called them in.
Got to be carefull who you sell to.  Not everyone who rides a Harley is a good guy.
ETA anything I say should be viewed as pure conjecture.
It'll come out soon enough.

Could be but make no mistake - the ATF culture is that of a bunch of ideological tyrannical thugs. And it's all about guns. What ever happened to the alcohol and tobacco part of their regulatory and enforcement mission? You ever hear about them busting moonshiners or people running cigarettes from state to state? That's all handled by IRS agents (i.e., gol durn revenuers).

They are an agency that has no mission and should have been dissolved decades ago. Nothing they do can't just as easily be handled by the FBI and they are struggling to justify their existence. They are only successful, so far, because they are the tools of the gun-grabbers at the Federal level.

[Lamont]

I'll wait for further news.

[sigequinox220]

You are like the butler in Mr. Deeds.
Very sneaky.
Sent you a PM in response.

Well that's no fun

[OH UNCLE PAUL]

Well that's no fun

To nip the tin foil in the bud. What he pulled out was in response to what was in his post which was also pulled out which had nothing to do with topic.

[OH UNCLE PAUL]

Could be but make no mistake - the ATF culture is that of a bunch of ideological tyrannical thugs. And it's all about guns. What ever happened to the alcohol and tobacco part of their regulatory and enforcement mission? You ever hear about them busting moonshiners or people running cigarettes from state to state? That's all handled by IRS agents (i.e., gol durn revenuers).

They are an agency that has no mission and should have been dissolved decades ago. Nothing they do can't just as easily be handled by the FBI and they are struggling to justify their existence. They are only successful, so far, because they are the tools of the gun-grabbers at the Federal level.

Might I suggest some reading material for you? Read Unintended Consequences by John Ross. If for whatever reason you can't find it in a library since few carry it and they are always checked out. I have a signed copy. Will loan it to you with a refundable deposit.

[sherm66]

Looking on the bright side....at least he's gonna get a complete inventory of everything he's got in the store courtesy of the ATF.  THey may even do some dusting and better display the merchandise.

Yeah, then they'll auction it and take the proceeds before it even goes to trial. The Feds ain't Rice. The Feds enjoy a 95% conviction rate. And not because they win at trial, but because most plea out.

[OH UNCLE PAUL]

Yeah, then they'll auction it and take the proceeds before it even goes to trial. The Feds ain't Rice. The Feds enjoy a 95% conviction rate. And not because they win at trial, but because most plea out.

Henry Bowman had a different idea.

ETA just read your avatar. LOL

[Lemming]

Yeah, then they'll auction it and take the proceeds before it even goes to trial. The Feds ain't Rice. The Feds enjoy a 95% conviction rate. And not because they win at trial, but because most plea out.

I thought that stores could transfer the stock to another FFL.  Or that they could transfer it to themself, but had to operate as a civilian (non-FFL)?  Pat Burns is still selling old C&R stock from BURNS BROTHERS.  Which, come to think of it, begs the question of how BB lost their FFL back when?  But that's for another thread, I suspect.

[helmup]

From Lord of War:


Borneo Officer: We're with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms.

Yuri Orlov: Let me guess... this isn't about the alcohol or tobacco.

[LIRES1987]

Horrible news, another one down for the count  

Sounds to me like the ATF needs to be shut down for committing treason and sending guns to Mexican drug cartels that were used to murder American citizens. Karma goes both ways ATF dudes.

[OH UNCLE PAUL]

Horrible news, another one down for the count  

Sounds to me like the ATF needs to be shut down for committing treason and sending guns to Mexican drug cartels that were used to murder American citizens. Karma goes both ways ATF dudes.

Sometimes things are not as they seem. Maybe SCPD brought in ATF? Let's just let this one play out.
This isn't Rice, this isn't what you might think.

[Lee442]

I stopped in Chesters today for the first time, noticed that he had several log books on the counter and the top one had "pistols" on it. Maybe SCPD was doing the rounds and caught G&A, never been there either.

[winston]

I think the type of store G & A was would make the ATF or pols nervous, his main stock if not all stock was military style weapons not relatively tame "sporting arms" I'll bet such a fair and honest, uncorrupted agency like the ATF  would be able to find something to nail somebody with whenever they wanted.

[OH UNCLE PAUL]

I stopped in Chesters today for the first time, noticed that he had several log books on the counter and the top one had "pistols" on it. Maybe SCPD was doing the rounds and caught G&A, never been there either.

Audits are ongoing. They come around. Don't read something that you saw as a connection to the situation.

[Tos]

My dad picked up a Derringer at Chester's this afternoon and said the guy behind the counter (not chester) was acting kinda paranoid.  He must have heard about G&A, I guess?

[SemiAuto]

Its getting tougher and tougher to be here on the Island. I don't even know why G&A got busted, but none of whats going on in the last year RE: LI FFL licensees makes me feel warm and fuzzy.