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#1 gunpoliticsny

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Posted January 12 2021 - 06:17 PM

Suffolk Co. range bill IR 1001-2021.



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#2 Ted_Feasel

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Posted January 12 2021 - 06:35 PM

I'm not from New York and from all I read, all I can say is thank the LORD im not. Please don't take offense my fellow conservatives if you live in New York but why don't more people get out of alcatraz? It seems NY is a lost cause both politically and financially.. it seems businesses are leaving in droves, even to the point that NY officials are basically trying to extort them into staying... or am I way off base on my assessment?

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Posted January 12 2021 - 07:42 PM

I'm not from New York and from all I read, all I can say is thank the LORD im not. Please don't take offense my fellow conservatives if you live in New York but why don't more people get out of alcatraz? It seems NY is a lost cause both politically and financially.. it seems businesses are leaving in droves, even to the point that NY officials are basically trying to extort them into staying... or am I way off base on my assessment?
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No offense taken. See, here is the basic problem, In my estimation of course. Many of us would already have left this stink hole of a state, but, our spouse doesn’t want to leave the family. Personally, the family can do as they please. I would miss them occasionally, but not enough for it to deter me. Call me callus if you like. Im thick skinned . . We’re in our mid 60’s, so I dont see the reason to wait any longer. Another problem is where to relocate. We did seriously consider Henderson NV over the past several years. Looked at some really beautiful homes. Never pulled the trigger. In hindsight, it turned out to be a good thing. Prices have skyrocketed there, mostly due to so many Californian’s relocation there. Sadly its a very liberal place now. They screwed the pooch again.
Anyway. Thats my take on it.

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Posted January 12 2021 - 09:50 PM

I'm not from New York and from all I read, all I can say is thank the LORD im not. Please don't take offense my fellow conservatives if you live in New York but why don't more people get out of alcatraz? It seems NY is a lost cause both politically and financially.. it seems businesses are leaving in droves, even to the point that NY officials are basically trying to extort them into staying... or am I way off base on my assessment?

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No offense taken. The thought definitely has crossed my mind but there’s so many more factors than just the firearms. Family is huge. Some of us have state jobs, many of which pay much more than their red state counterparts. Personally, wouldn’t mind taking my NYS pension someday and seeing how far it goes in another state.

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Posted January 12 2021 - 10:52 PM

I'm not from New York and from all I read, all I can say is thank the LORD im not. Please don't take offense my fellow conservatives if you live in New York but why don't more people get out of alcatraz? It seems NY is a lost cause both politically and financially.. it seems businesses are leaving in droves, even to the point that NY officials are basically trying to extort them into staying... or am I way off base on my assessment?

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a better metaphor would be to use "Sing Sing", not Alcatraz (which is closed anyway.)    Just sayin'



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Posted January 13 2021 - 05:44 AM

Unfortunately  I can't leave my Mother in-law and my father. Their both in their 80's and wouldn't do well moving ,also they don't want to leave. Plus i can't retire for another 3-4 yrs. Another thing is where to go ? Every state is getting contaminated with these liberal idiots. Sooner or later we're going to be in every where. People don't heed history. Remember a divided nation cannot survive as a nation.



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Posted January 13 2021 - 11:41 AM

No offense taken. The thought definitely has crossed my mind but there’s so many more factors than just the firearms. Family is huge. Some of us have state jobs, many of which pay much more than their red state counterparts. Personally, wouldn’t mind taking my NYS pension someday and seeing how far it goes in another state.

Understood.. I live in a pretty conservative county and lately it seems liberalism cancer is spreading here. My mom is 80 and dad died not long ago so I can not move because I want to be close to my mom. My wife and I have discussed many times and both agree that when my mom passes (I pray that a long time away) we are going to sell our home and move to a county that has declared its self a 2A sanctuary. I think it could be a powerful tool if businesses would all just pack up and move to conservative safe havens in essence leaving the liberal cities to fall into deep poverty and let them have what they have begged for. Meanwhile I will just continue to pray I reckon:)

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Posted January 13 2021 - 11:42 AM

a better metaphor would be to use "Sing Sing", not Alcatraz (which is closed anyway.) Just sayin'

Lol, point taken :)

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Posted January 13 2021 - 11:44 AM

No offense taken. See, here is the basic problem, In my estimation of course. Many of us would already have left this stink hole of a state, but, our spouse doesn’t want to leave the family. Personally, the family can do as they please. I would miss them occasionally, but not enough for it to deter me. Call me callus if you like. Im thick skinned . . We’re in our mid 60’s, so I dont see the reason to wait any longer. Another problem is where to relocate. We did seriously consider Henderson NV over the past several years. Looked at some really beautiful homes. Never pulled the trigger. In hindsight, it turned out to be a good thing. Prices have skyrocketed there, mostly due to so many Californian’s relocation there. Sadly its a very liberal place now. They screwed the pooch again.
Anyway. Thats my take on it.

There are ALOT of nice counties that have declared themselves conservative and 2A safe havens but I definitely get the family ties


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Posted January 13 2021 - 04:14 PM

It's easy to pick up and move if your a single guy. But if you have a family, kids, community ties, a career etc, easier said than done.


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Posted January 13 2021 - 04:44 PM

There are ALOT of nice counties that have declared themselves conservative and 2A safe havens but I definitely get the family ties


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Yep.. definitely been researching them and looking at job markets also.. im sure we will make the move, just a matter of timing:)

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Posted January 13 2021 - 04:47 PM

My wife and I are finally retired. We could easily move if it were not for our kids and grandchildren. Our two kids and their spouses all are in mid-career and moving isn't a viable option for them.  And then there's our 3 grandsons. It's funny how being a grandparent becomes your identity. I can't imagine my wife or I separating from what gives us so much joy.

 

Even if we all moved together; where would we go that could provide a lifetime of traditional, conservative values?


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Posted January 13 2021 - 04:49 PM

It's easy to pick up and move if your a single guy. But if you have a family, kids, community ties, a career etc, easier said than done.

I agree 100% when the timing is right we will definitely make our move but I think for all conservative business owners, that is our best way to fight back is to make states that are conservative and 2A friendly into business hubs and leave the rest to fend for themselves.. socialism would be awfully hard if a state didn't have money to steal and I think they would fall apart very quickly.. im sure feds would step in and try to force the conservative cities to pay the debt of the liberal fails but thats where these states need to unite and become self sufficient , even developing their own currency if needed.

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Posted January 13 2021 - 05:51 PM

My wife and I are finally retired. We could easily move if it were not for our kids and grandchildren. Our two kids and their spouses all are in mid-career and moving isn't a viable option for them. And then there's our 3 grandsons. It's funny how being a grandparent becomes your identity. I can't imagine my wife or I separating from what gives us so much joy.

Even if we all moved together; where would we go that could provide a lifetime of traditional, conservative values?

My dad died not long ago but my mom is still alive (thank you LORD) so I can definitely relate to not wanting to leave behind family and I know it would break my moms heart not seeing my children. Thats all that is really holding us here at the moment. All my siblings live far away and they are all very liberal so that isn't a big concern but my mom... she's my mom:)

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Posted Yesterday, 08:33 PM

“… Sunderman was indicted on perjury charges in July 2019 for allegedly telling the Suffolk County Board of Ethics falsely that he no longer worked for the Centereach Fire District. Suffolk County legislators are not permitted to hold two paying public jobs at once. Sunderman, who joined the legislature in 2018, created a shell company in his wife’s name so he could continue receiving income from the fire district, prosecutors said … Sunderman’s attorney, Ray Perini, said Saturday that a misdemeanor charge for getting two public paychecks was dismissed because Sunderman did not get a paycheck directly from the fire district … Perini said he has filed a motion to dismiss all charges against Sunderman, which include felony perjury charges. Perini said Sunderman got an ethics lawyer opinion before creating the corporation that said it would not violate the law and testified before the ethics board that he was “making less money” while doing the same work …”

How about some details about What that shell company DOES for the money received? WHY does that money that apparently USED to go to sunderman directly now go to his wife?

And then – we have community property – they are married, income benefiting one benefits BOTH..

He’s slime, plain and simple – the shell corporation seems clearly created so he could receive pay he shouldn’t…






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