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.223 vs 5.56 which is better for hunting?


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#1 michael18

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Posted November 10 2020 - 02:45 AM

When we talk about .223 and 5.56 both are identical in shape. In fact, we can load a .223 in a 5.56 chamber and both cartridges are widely used in AR guns. So the question is. Is it possible to hunt big games like a Bear or Deer in any of these cartridges or? Is there any gun customization needs to do for big game hunting.



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#2 packetloss

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Posted November 10 2020 - 08:15 AM

Most states don't allow hunting big game with .223 or 5.56.  Why would you want to choose that caliber for big game?



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Posted November 10 2020 - 09:00 AM

.308


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Posted November 10 2020 - 09:37 AM

https://www.realtree...as-a-deer-rifle

 

https://outdoorempir...m/ar15-hunting/

 

https://americanweap...hunting-you-bet

 

Its all about shot placement and the bullet itself.  But I would not use one for bear.   


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Posted November 10 2020 - 11:10 AM

There are some great hunting cartridges with heavy bullets in .223...not so much in 5.56

 

223 works awesome with deer inside of 200 yards. Some 223 has the same energy as a 30-30 with a flatter trajectory and less recoil

 

plenty of states allow 223, including New York


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Posted November 10 2020 - 05:32 PM

Sure it can be done.   The question is why do it.  You can buy proper deer rifles all over for $250-300. 



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Posted November 10 2020 - 06:50 PM

If a followup shot is needed, with so little recoil I am still on target.   And speaking of recoil, those who may be more sensitive than others can fire 5.56 without, shall we say, "anticipation."

Plus, at a hundred yards, I can go for head shots with an AR.   I just can't do that with my Marlin in .35 Remington.  And finally, I already own an AR and except for the Marlin just have a rifled barrel shotgun for deer now.


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Posted November 10 2020 - 07:19 PM

I don't think either are great for bear...maybe consider getting a 7.62x39 upper? Of course, if you would consider a new upper, check out the 6.5 grendel or 450 bushmaster. IMO, they are a little better suited for larger animals. If you don't want to spend a lot, look at Palmetto State Armory. If money is really tight, look at Bear Creek Arsenal. I have a few cheapo BCA and they work just fine--not super accurate (ie 2-3 MOA), but at short distances for hunting in the northeast, they all should be fine.

 

My 2 cents worth.



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Posted November 10 2020 - 07:40 PM

Sure it can be done.   The question is why do it.  You can buy proper deer rifles all over for $250-300. 

no recoil and I can see the impact of my shot. In addition 22lr and 223 is what I shoot most. I’m proficient with the two cartridges and can shoot sub MOA  with them



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Posted November 10 2020 - 07:45 PM

I don't think either are great for bear...maybe consider getting a 7.62x39 upper? Of course, if you would consider a new upper, check out the 6.5 grendel or 450 bushmaster. IMO, they are a little better suited for larger animals. If you don't want to spend a lot, look at Palmetto State Armory. If money is really tight, look at Bear Creek Arsenal. I have a few cheapo BCA and they work just fine--not super accurate (ie 2-3 MOA), but at short distances for hunting in the northeast, they all should be fine.

 

My 2 cents worth.

Most agree it’s not a bear cartridge. But nobody told the Inuit who use them for giant bears and caribou often


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Posted November 11 2020 - 08:46 PM

Get a 300 blackout upper. I built one and taken out in the woods but no deer. And not because of missing.

I have the Nikon 300 Blk scope and with the Sig 125gr I am punching 1 moa all day long. Hunting round of choice is the Barnes Vortex 120gr with the black tip. Also about 1 mom from my rifle.

Recoil is almost nothing compared to my 308s and of course follow up shots are super easy. This would also be a great hog rifle.

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Posted November 11 2020 - 11:30 PM

Get a 300 blackout upper. I built one and taken out in the woods but no deer. And not because of missing.

I have the Nikon 300 Blk scope and with the Sig 125gr I am punching 1 moa all day long. Hunting round of choice is the Barnes Vortex 120gr with the black tip. Also about 1 mom from my rifle.

Recoil is almost nothing compared to my 308s and of course follow up shots are super easy. This would also be a great hog rifle.

heavier 223 hunting rounds have more knock down power and a flatter trajectory then 300 blackout.  Plus it’s cheap to shoot large quantities of rounds. 
 

Plus you can build accurate 4 pound 223 rifles cheap

 

im not knocking 300 blackout. But modern 223 cartridges has really made it a much more versatile tool then in the past



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Posted November 25 2020 - 04:57 PM

You cannot go wrong with .308, it will lay out anything in the Northeast...............



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Posted November 25 2020 - 06:52 PM

Hmm..  

1st post. from Fla sign-in on a NY forum.

This is this for your article, right?  "gun-customization" 

 

Hunting? Sure


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#15 Swstock

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Posted November 25 2020 - 08:50 PM

FOH. Guy makes the same post on multiple boards and disappears.

https://sbg-sword-fo...6-which-hunting

http://www.thehuntin...pic.php?t=56879

https://www.xdtalk.c...hunting.451240/

Edited by Swstock, November 25 2020 - 09:13 PM.

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Posted November 26 2020 - 06:16 AM

About 30 years ago, I was hunting with a gentleman that used his Ruger Mini-14 in .223 to hunt Deer with. He used a factory 55 grain Soft Point bullet. I was using at the time a Ruger Mini-30 in .762x39 using factory Federal 123 grain soft point.
One of the other hunters was questioning him about using that rifle. He said every deer I shoot is dead. He liked the light recoil and ease of carrying it in the woods.
The doe he shot at around 100 yards ran 50 yards, double lung shot with the size of quarter exit. In New York, we are allowed to hunt deer with any centerfire rifle cartridge. Some states have restrictions on using the .223 for deer hunting. The 5.56 doesn’t have a large selection of factory hunting ammunition when compared to the .223 Remington.

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Posted November 26 2020 - 03:39 PM

 

Nice catch.  If there was any doubt it was a troll post, he signed up on each board using different names (Michael, Gary,Richard).   Very odd.


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Posted November 26 2020 - 10:42 PM

The 1st hint was Florida.


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Posted Yesterday, 12:21 AM

5.56



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Posted Yesterday, 09:35 AM

Honestly you'll probably get yelled at using either those calibers for hunting.... The goal is to make the death instant... If your hunting wild boar or maybe the smaller deer (german shepards with long legs) you find down south it may be ok: but I would recommend using a higher weight and power caliber... I do not recommend 223 or 556 for large game.






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