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Lock downs/masks fail, and why you should live again


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#21 pewpew2020

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Posted October 20 2020 - 10:08 PM

I have a hard time taking position on covid responses... as politicized of a topic as it’s become i truly think everyone has their ideas on what should be but no one knows enough. Its a hope for the best prepare for the worst situation. This will for sure be something looked at in history as something that added to the rule book of how to handle in the future haha. Lots of guessing going on at the moment.

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#22 Ancap

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Posted October 21 2020 - 06:07 AM

I'm well aware of the fact that there were downsides to the shutdown but I don't deal in speculations about what ifs.

I'm not ignoring Sweden's results. Their mortality rate is 5.5% in a population of 10 million people. The U.S. mortality rate is 2.6% with a population of 330 million. Doing what Sweden did more than doubles the number of deaths in the U.S. I don't see that as a great success.

And how many of those deaths were due to the debacle of government handling of nursing homes which they took responsibility 

 

and how little where the deaths were among the general population?  Sweden curve is very flat while everyone else is not

 

but you want to compare the U.S.  compare Florida lockdown to California lockdown .

 

https://www.youtube....h?v=MmByg8eTyHY

 

 

admit it, lockdowns are junk science just like the original video stated



#23 2edgesword

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Posted October 21 2020 - 09:12 AM

And how many of those deaths were due to the debacle of government handling of nursing homes which they took responsibility 
 
and how little where the deaths were among the general population?  Sweden curve is very flat while everyone else is not
 
but you want to compare the U.S.  compare Florida lockdown to California lockdown .
 
https://www.youtube....h?v=MmByg8eTyHY
 
 
admit it, lockdowns are junk science just like the original video stated


Let's not be so fast to switch arguments. Your argument that the U.S. did such a terrible job isn't support by the FACTS regarding Sweden. Now you want to switch gears and talk about state to state. No one is claiming mistakes weren't made (NY and nursing homes) BUT the FACTS indicate the U.S. has done a relatively good job in halting the spread and deaths compared to other countries that didn't have the same size population or population density.

As far as NY and FL there are some very obvious differences. The first is NY was one of the very early states impacted by the virus since it's one of the major centers of international travel. A lot of that travel centers around one of the most densely population places in the country, New York City. One major mistake (sending infected people back into nursing homes) resulted in a large number of deaths among the most vulnerable segments of the population.

You take the most superficial information and make it the foundation of your argument claiming a one size fits all plan should have been adopted. Wrong! Different modes of operation have to be developed to deal with the unique aspects of the population being addressed. What is successful in small town Ohio isn't going to work in densely populated places like NYC.




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