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Portland shooting -- self defense?


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#1 cprstn54

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Posted September 02 2020 - 08:19 AM

Are you permitted to use deadly force against someone about to unlawfully use pepper spray on you?

 

That is, can you shoot someone who is threatening to incapacitate you?

 

See discussion at: https://www.buckeyef...ed-pepper-spray

 



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#2 Tom Mac

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Posted September 02 2020 - 08:47 AM

Agree with writer... esp since he could step up in defense with a taser with also backup present



#3 only7rounds2

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Posted September 02 2020 - 11:54 AM

You can not use DPF against "non" lethal force. DEPENDING ON THE CONTEXT. i.e. you CAN shoot someone who is firing a Taser at your head.



#4 Lotust1

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Posted September 02 2020 - 12:38 PM

Ohhh the laws are crazy sometimes and the average person now a day’s is probably hesitant to use deadly force . I feel bad for all the great law enforcement. They have to make spit second decisions sometimes and people forget there humans who make mistakes 



#5 boosti

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Posted September 02 2020 - 01:34 PM

You can not use DPF against "non" lethal force. DEPENDING ON THE CONTEXT. i.e. you CAN shoot someone who is firing a Taser at your head.

Apparently not true in a Democratic run place. A White Cop is charged with murder because a fleeing felon who stole a police issued taser and fired at the head of that cop.
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#6 2edgesword

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Posted September 03 2020 - 04:16 PM

I disagree with the argument that in all circumstances deadly force cannot be used against someone that is about to spray you with Mace. If that person is using it offensively to commit a crime I think it is reasonable to believe the use of the spray is a first action in the process of a continued use of force to commit the crime (incapacitate with spray to do additional harm), possibly to disarm you of your weapon. If a person has asthma or some other serious respiratory illness getting sprayed could result in serious bodily injury. I would not make the blanket statement that in all circumstances the use of deadly force to prevent someone from macing you is always unjustified.

Edited by 2edgesword, September 03 2020 - 04:17 PM.





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