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2A: Trump v Biden


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#21 Phoenix69

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Posted September 29 2020 - 02:04 PM

This is the exact 0bama mantra - IF YOU LIKE YOUR GUNS YOU CAN KEEP YOUR GUNS.

In fact, what you are saying is VOTE FOR THE GUY WHO PROMISES TO BAN YOUR GUNS, because he is just pandering for votes and he really won't ban your guns.

You really are posting in the wrong web site.

That is why this applies.....

 

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#22 Wowzer

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Posted September 29 2020 - 06:01 PM

The web page has changed and become more restrictive. Even so, the only item that would affect me is banning on-line sales of ammunition because TYD is now possible and would end, adding $10 to every on-line-to-FFL purchase. Parts of the SAFE act purport to do that anyway but haven't been activated.

 

Other things are look-good-feel-good and would not survive constitutional challenge, like licensing to own a gun for home protection. We are already licensed for hunting.

 

A little worrisome is that the list suggests they will try to restrict all SA guns. This would be impossible for handguns but a big problem for rifles. Last go-round they tried to do this with a long list of guns that were available in assault form (looks like an AR) and cosmetically changed. This time they might ban a BAR or 10/22.

 

With this list Biden is looking to get every anti-gun, anti-NRA vote. What he would actually do if elected is a different matter. Looking to what actually changed under Obama, the answer is not much. With Barrett on the Supreme Court Biden will do even less, which will be his explanation for not accomplishing any of his gun goals.

 

 

 

Ammo ban affecting you? Dude, we are talking about a national law. No one would ship and you can't find any local ammo...effectively banning you from keeping and bearing arms. How can this be an acceptable thing?

 

If you can't accept that a politician is going to enact legislation that they post on their agenda, then why in the world do you bother to vote at all? You cannot be serious, right?

 

 

Lastly, what bug got up your butt so that you are supportive of a demonrat, despite all evidence pointing to their singular wish to ban all citizen ownership of firearms in America? Can you truly be this entrenched in the demonrat party that you will not believe your own lying eyes?


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#23 Wowzer

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Posted September 29 2020 - 06:12 PM

As if there aren't enough statements from Biden indicating that he will BAN your 'assault rifle' (which is anything the D's want it to be):

 

https://www.cnn.com/...trol/index.html

 

 

 

I know that you are 74 years old, but c'mon...learn a new trick. Click the 'R' on election day....


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#24 NRATC53

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Posted October 01 2020 - 01:26 PM

Two balanced summaries of the respective positions:

https://www.ontheiss...Gun_Control.htm

https://www.ontheiss...Gun_Control.htm

 

Note that both support a ban on "assault weapons."

 

Trump did expand hunting on national wildlife refuges and made it harder to deny guns to those with mental illnesses.

 

Can anyone identify anything else Trump has done in 3.5 years to advance his expressed pro-2A positions?

Have read both, know Biden's record, which is abysmal. He championed the 94 AWB, and was upset that it wasn't renewed. His laundry list of anti-gun deeds while in office speaks volumes.

Trump has championed 2A in word and deed, messing up a few times when he shoots his mouth off, but is worlds better than Biden. How could you even post such a thing on a firearms forum with any kind of sincerity?

Had you posted the language of both, instead of hiding them behind links, it would be harder for you to try and make your teeny weeny little points, and defend against the righteous indignation of those of us that actually pay attention to these things.


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#25 pewpew2020

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Posted October 05 2020 - 10:39 PM

I think you’re gunna have a hard time getting this thought of yours to fly with this crowd... Definitely going over lime a lead balloon 🎈




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