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#1 CaptainMitchell

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Posted June 15 2020 - 10:34 AM

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WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. Supreme Court on Monday declined to take up a series of new cases seeking to expand gun rights.

The court rejected a total of 10 different cases that had piled up at the court in recent months. Two justices, conservatives Clarence Thomas and Brett Kavanaugh, said they would have heard one of the cases, a dispute from New Jersey over that state's concealed carry gun permits.

In the New Jersey case, the justices left in place a lower court ruling that threw out a lawsuit challenging the state's law mandating that people who want to carry handguns in public must show they have a special reason before they can get a permit.

Other cases the court declined to take up included challenges to assault weapon bans in Massachusetts and Cook County, Illinois, a jurisdiction that includes Chicago. The court also turned down cases similar to the New Jersey dispute from Massachusetts and Maryland.

The high court's action comes on the heels of its April 27 decision to dismiss a National Rifle Association-backed challenge to now-repealed New York City restrictions on handgun owners transporting their firearms outside the home.

The move sidestepped a major ruling over the scope of the right to bear arms under the U.S. Constitution's Second Amendment.

The New York case was the first gun rights dispute the court had heard in almost a decade, with gun control activists fearful the court will further expand the right to bear arms.

The decision by the justices not to take up any of the 10 other cases shows that the court, which has a 5-4 conservative majority, remains hesitant about wading into gun rights issues.

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#2 mvphilly

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Posted June 15 2020 - 11:26 AM

I already knew this was going to be the case.


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Posted June 15 2020 - 02:37 PM

Think how much worse this will be if Biden gets elected.


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Posted June 15 2020 - 03:27 PM

Maybe someone with some legal background and knowledge of the cases can chime in on why all of them were rejected for review and if there is another case that might be more promising.



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Posted June 15 2020 - 03:33 PM

Why is the 2nd amendment the “red-headed step child” of the constitution? Maybe because it says shall not be infringed, so SCOTUS assumes it’s not being infringed?

We’re going to need like 7-2 majority to get our day in court.

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Posted June 15 2020 - 04:09 PM

Exactly, right now we don't have a majority on the court. We have 4 conservative 2A justices. That is enough to grant a cert and hear a case, but you need 5 to win the case. If you choose a case and lose it, you could be doing great damage to the 2A. 3 of the conservative justices already argued against dismissing NYSPRA vs NYC, and the remaining one Kavanaugh said Heller is not being honored by states so we should be reviewing some of the 10 2A cases that were just dismissed. So they aren't against 2A, they are just waiting for the right opportunity (I'm an optimist). 

 

Why is the 2nd amendment the “red-headed step child” of the constitution? Maybe because it says shall not be infringed, so SCOTUS assumes it’s not being infringed?

We’re going to need like 7-2 majority to get our day in court.


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Posted June 16 2020 - 09:33 AM

I think the Trumpists who expect the Trump Supreme Court to roll things back to 1967, and also impose constitutional carry are deluded.

 

Trump officials are into gathering and using power to enhance their personal positions, not to enhance equality. The standard attitude of such leaders for thousands of years has been  to deprive the populace of weapons.

 

It will take a court of libertarians to get unreasonable restrictions abolished. The Republicans want to keep power in their own elite hands and the Dems think guns are evil. Neither party will do what gun enthusiasts want.



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Posted June 16 2020 - 01:23 PM

Maybe someone with some legal background and knowledge of the cases can chime in on why all of them were rejected for review and if there is another case that might be more promising.

 

Because neither side is confident where Roberts will vote and thus each side on SCOTUS is looking to push it beyond the election to see if they can get another allied justice appointed.


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Posted June 16 2020 - 01:24 PM

Maybe someone with some legal background and knowledge of the cases can chime in on why all of them were rejected for review and if there is another case that might be more promising.

 

That's a possibility. Not accepting a particular case for review is one thing, while actually taking a case and ruling on it is another.

 

The Supreme Court is a political body with nine votes. Right now it is basically a center - right court in its voting split. They know that there is a very good chance of vacancies in the court and a good chance TRUMP will be there for another four years. What if some of the Swampy conservatives on the court are waiting to see if some more conservatives end up on the court to give them more cover for conservative decisions. They hate being out there on a limb as a swing vote that can be blamed for a decision, which would cause the Commie media to target them, upset their private lives and lessen invitations to social events etc. Not to mention, if TRUMP loses they know it would be even worse for them. They're followers, not leaders. Whereas we see Thomas and Alito are leaders. Followers are sneaky and they are often plotters. So, if TRUMP wins we may have a truly conservative court, and if the Commies win watch some of them end up as newly minted lefties.

 

Bottom line is that many of them watch the polls and election results, and bend with the wind.


Edited by iGreg, June 16 2020 - 01:38 PM.


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Posted June 17 2020 - 07:43 AM

RBG needs to go, to give us a solid 5/4, maybe 6/3. She's only hanging on, by the thinest of strings. There's no way she can survive another presidential term.

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Posted June 17 2020 - 08:03 AM

RBG needs to go, to give us a solid 5/4, maybe 6/3. She's only hanging on, by the thinest of strings. There's no way she can survive another presidential term.
Gary

Gary, she’s suffered greatly through her cancer. I was at Sloan Kettering for a post surgery visit in December when she was there for her surgery to remove cancer from her lung. She will not retire from the SCOTUS with President Trump in office. The liberals and Hollywood have embraced her.
Trump 2020!
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Posted June 17 2020 - 01:37 PM

Gary, she’s suffered greatly through her cancer. I was at Sloan Kettering for a post surgery visit in December when she was there for her surgery to remove cancer from her lung. She will not retire from the SCOTUS with President Trump in office. The liberals and Hollywood have embraced her.
Trump 2020!

 

I'm not expecting her to retire, either. I don't think she has enough time left, to live, to make it through another presidential term. She has too many serious health issues, to last much longer.

Gary


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Posted June 18 2020 - 12:03 AM

I'm not expecting her to retire, either. I don't think she has enough time left, to live, to make it through another presidential term. She has too many serious health issues, to last much longer.
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Sooner better than later.
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Posted June 18 2020 - 10:54 AM

I believe Chief Justice Roberts is the new Liberal on the Court. Trump tweeted say goodbye to our 2nd Amendment, we need another conservative. Trump 2020!

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Posted October 04 2020 - 05:01 PM

Once Coney-Barrett comes on, she should be a strong 2A supporter. Her name is BARRETT!


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Posted October 05 2020 - 07:28 PM

Roberts is a liberal at heart, so the court is now perfectly balanced at 8.   Let's hope Amy gets on..



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Posted October 06 2020 - 06:16 AM

Roberts is a liberal at heart, so the court is now perfectly balanced at 8.   Let's hope Amy gets on..

I see no reason she won't be appointed and that will give us a 5-3-1 court, which is what we need.

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Posted October 06 2020 - 11:07 AM

Gary, she’s suffered greatly through her cancer. I was at Sloan Kettering for a post surgery visit in December when she was there for her surgery to remove cancer from her lung. She will not retire from the SCOTUS with President Trump in office. The liberals and Hollywood have embraced her.
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She would have retired if HRC had been elected. The First Woman SCOTUS Justice to be replaced by the First Woman POTUS. Once that happened, she decided to hang on at all costs, as not to be replaced by Trump






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