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Official? 10 round magazines are GTG


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#1 Wowzer

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Posted April 30 2020 - 09:23 AM

https://safeact.ny.gov

Click on Find Out Changes to the Act.

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#2 TJ Ironhorse

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Posted April 30 2020 - 09:37 AM

I still dont see anything thats says you can load 10 rounds anywhere but range. My understanding is we can purchase 10 round magazines. We have been doing that already.
What am I missing here?

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Posted April 30 2020 - 09:55 AM

Nor will you on that website. They have an axe to grind. Try searching for the resultant lawsuits and the results of that.

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Posted April 30 2020 - 10:07 AM

A few arrests under the Safe Act with magazines loaded with 10 rounds have been tossed out for not obtaining a search warrant to check the magazine.

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Posted April 30 2020 - 10:18 AM

FUAC


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#6 only7rounds

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Posted April 30 2020 - 12:18 PM

The "change" is from 2013.



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Posted April 30 2020 - 01:22 PM

So 7 rounds is the max you are allowed to load unless you are at the range or are law enforcement?



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Posted April 30 2020 - 03:19 PM

So 7 rounds is the max you are allowed to load unless you are at the range or are law enforcement?

Not if you abide by the Federal decision.



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Posted April 30 2020 - 03:24 PM

:popcorn :deadhorse


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Posted April 30 2020 - 04:18 PM

Not if you abide by the Federal decision.

 

I mean, what does NY believe the max is?   Personally, I don't want to be the test case.



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Posted April 30 2020 - 05:39 PM

So 7 rounds is the max you are allowed to load unless you are at the range or are law enforcement?

 

10 rounds.  Anywhere.  Courts threw out the 7 round thing as irrational. 



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Posted April 30 2020 - 05:40 PM

I mean, what does NY believe the max is?   Personally, I don't want to be the test case.

If you look up, someone is trying to tell you

 

YOU ARE BEATING A DEAD HORSE.



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Posted April 30 2020 - 10:00 PM

If you look up, someone is trying to tell you

 

YOU ARE BEATING A DEAD HORSE.

 

I did but it seems there really is no straight answer to this, other than no point in testing it out.

 

The State Troopers have been given a directive not to charge anyone with breaking the law for having 8-10 rounds in their magazine. However, that does not mean other law enforcement agencies in the state won’t arrest you, because they can, and the District Attorney won’t bring charges against you, because they can! A Judge MIGHT throw the case out, but who in-their-right-mind would want to take the chance and possibly have to spend time in jail, court, and spend their hard-earned money defending themselves?



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Posted May 01 2020 - 01:03 AM

I did but it seems there really is no straight answer to this, other than no point in testing it out.

 

The State Troopers have been given a directive not to charge anyone with breaking the law for having 8-10 rounds in their magazine. However, that does not mean other law enforcement agencies in the state won’t arrest you, because they can, and the District Attorney won’t bring charges against you, because they can! A Judge MIGHT throw the case out, but who in-their-right-mind would want to take the chance and possibly have to spend time in jail, court, and spend their hard-earned money defending themselves?

 

Ask a lawyer.  He'll tell you the Court threw out the 7 round thing.  10 rounds is the law now.    Nothing the State Police says is the law.  The  courts and legislature make the law. 

 

Here's the court decision and some media coverage.  https://legalinsurre...ct-allows-rest/

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Edited by grifhunter, May 01 2020 - 01:07 AM.


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Posted May 01 2020 - 01:52 AM

I did but it seems there really is no straight answer to this, other than no point in testing it out.

 

The State Troopers have been given a directive not to charge anyone with breaking the law for having 8-10 rounds in their magazine. However, that does not mean other law enforcement agencies in the state won’t arrest you, because they can, and the District Attorney won’t bring charges against you, because they can! A Judge MIGHT throw the case out, but who in-their-right-mind would want to take the chance and possibly have to spend time in jail, court, and spend their hard-earned money defending themselves?

 

I'm pretty sure that LEO can arrest you for nearly anything (or whatever lie they want to fabricate if they really want to arrest you). I've heard of officers arresting an ER nurse in the ER of the hospital because she pointed a finger at them and said, 'you can't do that.' The SGT on the scene ordered the arrest based on the fact that he felt targeted by her. When the cops arrived at the booking, the desk SGT released her immediately, but that still meant that she was detained against her will and taken away in cuffs to the police precinct.



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Posted May 01 2020 - 08:31 AM

I did but it seems there really is no straight answer to this, other than no point in testing it out.
 
The State Troopers have been given a directive not to charge anyone with breaking the law for having 8-10 rounds in their magazine. However, that does not mean other law enforcement agencies in the state won’t arrest you, because they can, and the District Attorney won’t bring charges against you, because they can! A Judge MIGHT throw the case out, but who in-their-right-mind would want to take the chance and possibly have to spend time in jail, court, and spend their hard-earned money defending themselves?[/size]

The Western District of New York ruled on the 7 round magazine limit. A few arrests made in the state have gone to court where an attorney said there clients 4th amendment rights protected the firearms magazine from being searched without a warrant. If anyone has a current copy of the NY Penal Law under 265, look for magazines in excess of 7 rounds. If the law is in the current Penal Law, an officer May collar.

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Posted May 01 2020 - 11:34 AM

The Western District of New York ruled on the 7 round magazine limit. A few arrests made in the state have gone to court where an attorney said there clients 4th amendment rights protected the firearms magazine from being searched without a warrant. If anyone has a current copy of the NY Penal Law under 265, look for magazines in excess of 7 rounds. If the law is in the current Penal Law, an officer May collar.


Penal law 265.23 I believe

Edited by TJ Ironhorse, May 01 2020 - 11:37 AM.





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