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What is Maximum Magazine Capacity for Semi-Auto Shotgun in NY now


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#1 Tacguy

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Posted April 28 2020 - 11:50 AM

Under the NY SAFE act from 2013  (which has been amended several times due to judicial rulings) , what is the maximum legal Magazine capacity/number of rounds that can be put into said magazine) for a semi-automatic shotgun?

When the SAFE act was first enacted, it restricted the maximum magazine capacity (and maximum rounds) to 7, but that was amended in 2014 and again in 2015 for handguns.

I am getting conflicting info with respect to the maximum magazine capacity and maximum rounds that can be carried in a Semi-Automatic Shotgun  (at home, and at the range).

It is my understanding that since 2014, you are allowed to have up to a 10 round magazine and 10 rounds in a semi-automatic shotgun.  I would appreciate it if anyone can confirm or clarify this for me.  Thank you.



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#2 sparks25

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Posted April 28 2020 - 04:09 PM

Not sure but I think a semi-auto is limited to 7 in magazine capacity. That was the last I heard from the SAFE hotline. Such as it is.
I think a pump would be ok with 10 but that is just because I did not see any other specific wording except for the general SAFE 10 round magazine limitation.
Don’t even ask about mini shells. No idea.

#3 only7rounds

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Posted April 28 2020 - 06:50 PM

There have not been any amendments to the SAFE ACT. That is bad info.

You can have a 10 round mag in a handgun, plus one in the chamber.

Semi shotguns appear to be limited to a 7 round mag, plus one in the chamber.

Pump shotgun should be the same limit as any other magazine - 10 rounds



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Posted April 28 2020 - 06:51 PM

Not sure but I think a semi-auto is limited to 7 in magazine capacity. That was the last I heard from the SAFE hotline. Such as it is.
I think a pump would be ok with 10 but that is just because I did not see any other specific wording except for the general SAFE 10 round magazine limitation.
Don’t even ask about mini shells. No idea.

The Judge in the Western District ruled that the mag capacity is based on the stated capacity with the shells it is marked to use, so mini shells do not make the capacity illegal. HOWEVER, 11 minishells stuffed into the tube may be a cuomo crime.



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Posted June 28 2020 - 03:26 PM

Not interested.



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Posted June 29 2020 - 11:09 AM

There have not been any amendments to the SAFE ACT. That is bad info.

You can have a 10 round mag in a handgun, plus one in the chamber.

Semi shotguns appear to be limited to a 7 round mag, plus one in the chamber.

Pump shotgun should be the same limit as any other magazine - 10 rounds

Pump action I believe is not covered by the SAFE magazine size limits, or muzzle brake, or threaded barrel, or flash hider or bayonet.

 

Just like bolt action. Go to town: KSG-25 -- 25 rounds of anti-home-invader protection. Load it with 00 magnum express buck and you can take them out three deep.



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Posted June 29 2020 - 12:07 PM

Pump action I believe is not covered by the SAFE magazine size limits, or muzzle brake, or threaded barrel, or flash hider or bayonet.

 

Just like bolt action. Go to town: KSG-25 -- 25 rounds of anti-home-invader protection. Load it with 00 magnum express buck and you can take them out three deep.

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Posted June 29 2020 - 01:49 PM

Pump action I believe is not covered by the SAFE magazine size limits, or muzzle brake, or threaded barrel, or flash hider or bayonet.

 

Just like bolt action. Go to town: KSG-25 -- 25 rounds of anti-home-invader protection. Load it with 00 magnum express buck and you can take them out three deep.

 

Incorrect.  Evil features like muzzle devices, pistol grips and folding stock are legal on pump action shotguns.

 

But no detachable or fixed magazine can exceed a capacity of 10 rounds.  The only exception is a fixed, tubular magazine on 22 caliber rifle, such as a 22 lever gun or Marlin 60.  And only 10 rounds can be legally loaded in them. 

 

Pump action shotguns with multiple magazines that each hold fewer than 10 rounds, but where the combined capacity of the multiple magazines exceed 10 (such as the KSG and the DP-12, are legal by the letter of the law and have been sold openly in NYS gun shops, so they are presumably considered legal by NYS authorities.  


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Posted June 30 2020 - 05:23 AM

Limitations aren't imposed if you are exercising your right of free speech to tear down statues.  Where you'll run into trouble is if you are trying to defend your home or historic monument.


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Posted June 30 2020 - 08:02 AM

Incorrect.  Evil features like muzzle devices, pistol grips and folding stock are legal on pump action shotguns.

 

But no detachable or fixed magazine can exceed a capacity of 10 rounds.  The only exception is a fixed, tubular magazine on 22 caliber rifle, such as a 22 lever gun or Marlin 60.  And only 10 rounds can be legally loaded in them. 

It is legal because  the gun is expressly chambered for 3" shells. Each tubular magazine can hold no more than ten 3" rounds and there is a manual magazine selector. The fact that you can load 20 mini-shells into each magazine is considered immaterial because it says 3" on the gun.

 

See: https://www.keltecwe...s/shotguns/ksg/

 

However, you cannot buy this $800 shotgun for less than $2,000 these days due to skyrocketing demand.



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Posted June 30 2020 - 10:58 AM

I have a copy of the 77 page unSAFE as a word doc. for anyone who wants it emailed to them.   I also have the "addendum" that was issued shortly afterward.   It is quite apparent that many of us could use the refresher of re-reading it.   Nearly half of the 77 pages is the mental health stuff so unless it applies, it can be skipped over.






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