I completely understand, but they went after the whole law. I was talking about opening a crack in the door. They said the law was unconstitutional, what they should have done was attacked various portions of the law to weaken it. The magazine issue was good but they could have gone after calibers individually, magazine location individually and other aspects. I have seen too many court decisions where they threw the baby out with the bath water and this was what they did. Counsel has to gnaw at small bits of the legislation, to render it meaningless, not the whole thing like they did. The lawyers that I worked with always knew the law, but I would bet that these did not understand the nuances of pieces of the legislation. In my business, lawyers learned as they went along and never had an expertise in anything but he law. They often did not know how it applied to certain circumstances. I will look up the firms that were used and see who their experts were and who they used to testify. This needs to be delved into more deeply.
No, they went after the separate parts of SAFE that applied to individualized things like muzzle brakes, grips, stock configuration, mag capacity, etc. Read the trial court decisions all the way up through the 2nd Circuit Court of Appeals.
NY courts are mostly deferential to whatever the state wants on guns. Bottom line is it will take the SCOTUS to straighten this NY mess out.The NRA in NY has means to effect this. Their focus is rightly in swing states.
Trump's re-election is the only chance, as he can seat the fifth pro 2nd Amendment justice. Otherwise, Heller and the 2nd Amendment will be neutered here and eventually nationally in whatever free state one escapes to.
There are two ways to do that, legally:
1) if you attend a sanctioned match, with a copy of the match schedule and the handgun(s) and/or ammo you bring are not on that other state's illegal-to-possess list or
2) you have a non-resident handgun license, in those other states and the handgun(s) and/or ammo you bring are not on that other state's illegal-to-possess list.
Not sure this is accurate. Just before the SCOTUS hearing on the issue Cuomo and NYC, backed off the prohibition on taking pistols outside your domicile or the state. You may travel with your firearm between your home and any place in the other state the firearm is lawful for possession and use. You must travel with the pistol unloaded (rounds out of magazine) and contained in a latched container in the rear of your vehicle. If you have an out of state carry license, you can carry in that state.
Of course, anyone who wants legal advice should consult with their own attorney.
Edited by grifhunter, September 08 2020 - 12:57 PM.