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#1 Moosehead

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Posted February 23 2020 - 09:49 PM

I know this question has likely been asked before but I searched and couldn't find it. Can a pistol permit holder go to a range with a friend who is not a permit holder and allow him to shoot the permit holders pistol? If not, why not?

Sorry for the likely repetition.



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#2 Strat688

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Posted February 23 2020 - 11:20 PM

In NY, I believe the short answer is No.
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Posted February 23 2020 - 11:25 PM

In NY, I believe the short answer is No.

 

I guess that is indeed the short answer, but for the life of me I can't understand why. and at some ranges who will be looking and will they turn you in?



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Posted February 23 2020 - 11:50 PM

I guess that is indeed the short answer, but for the life of me I can't understand why. and at some ranges who will be looking and will they turn you in?


I know many ranges that will look. Most often, they have pistol shooters on a different line than unlicensed folk, to prevent such an opportunity.

NY has a special exception for people under 21, but that’s it.

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Posted February 24 2020 - 07:45 AM

At Brookhaven, you need to show your license at check-in. You are issued a wrist band which you must wear in the pistol area. No wrist band, no pistol shooting. In the past have gone indoor at Bensons and currently go to DSI. You must have a pistol license in both places to shoot pistol. Do they monitor who is shooting what. Will they turn you in? Well, they may not "turn you in" but I guarantee you will be told to leave. They can't take a chance on losing their license to operate a range.


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Posted February 24 2020 - 08:37 AM

It's because, in NY's Penal Code, it's illegal for anyone, with a few exceptions for those under 21, who are undergoing speciific training, to even touch a handgun.

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Posted February 24 2020 - 09:24 AM

IIRC, at the Nassau County Rifle & Pistol Range they prohibit the practice of one licensed handgun shooter from firing a handgun owned by another licensed handgun shooter even while both are shooting together.

 

The policy probably isn't supported by any law but I'm sure I saw it posted in their rules. How ridiculous is that?



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Posted February 24 2020 - 10:23 AM

S 265.01-b Criminal possession of a firearm.
A person is guilty of criminal possession of a firearm when he or she:
(1) possesses any firearm or; (2) lawfully possesses a firearm prior to
the effective date of the chapter of the laws of two thousand thirteen
which added this section subject to the registration requirements of
subdivision sixteen-a of section 400.00 of this chapter and knowingly
fails to register such firearm pursuant to such subdivision.
Criminal possession of a firearm is a class E felony.

 

3. "Firearm" means (a) any pistol or revolver; or ( b ) a shotgun having
one or more barrels less than eighteen inches in length; or ( c ) a rifle
having one or more barrels less than sixteen inches in length; or (d)
any weapon made from a shotgun or rifle whether by alteration,
modification, or otherwise if such weapon as altered, modified, or
otherwise has an overall length of less than twenty-six inches; or (e)
an assault weapon. For the purpose of this subdivision the length of the
barrel on a shotgun or rifle shall be determined by measuring the
distance between the muzzle and the face of the bolt, breech, or
breechlock when closed and when the shotgun or rifle is cocked; the
overall length of a weapon made from a shotgun or rifle is the distance
between the extreme ends of the weapon measured along a line parallel to
the center line of the bore. Firearm does not include an antique
firearm.

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Posted February 24 2020 - 10:35 AM

The other short answer is read above AND if you want to put everyone at that and other range in the state at risk of not having a place to legally enjoy what they are doing, just sneak around at the range and hope you are not caught. 

 

I do not own a handgun and probably never will, but I'll be damned if some clown is going to make me drive to New Jersey or Pennsylvania to enjoy shooting my rifle.


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Posted February 24 2020 - 11:01 AM

I know this question has likely been asked before but I searched and couldn't find it. Can a pistol permit holder go to a range with a friend who is not a permit holder and allow him to shoot the permit holders pistol? If not, why not?

Sorry for the likely repetition.

You can visit GUNFORHIRE in NJ, NO license needed...



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Posted February 24 2020 - 11:12 AM

IIRC, at the Nassau County Rifle & Pistol Range they prohibit the practice of one licensed handgun shooter from firing a handgun owned by another licensed handgun shooter even while both are shooting together.

 

The policy probably isn't supported by any law but I'm sure I saw it posted in their rules. How ridiculous is that?

 

Quite ridiculous, but the house rules (and they have a lot of them, some of which are even more ridiculous) are the rules.


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Posted February 24 2020 - 07:28 PM

I have a NYS permit and CT permit and I have seen people shooting oter peoples guns in CT but never NY.


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Posted February 24 2020 - 09:15 PM

IIRC, at the Nassau County Rifle & Pistol Range they prohibit the practice of one licensed handgun shooter from firing a handgun owned by another licensed handgun shooter even while both are shooting together.

 

The policy probably isn't supported by any law but I'm sure I saw it posted in their rules. How ridiculous is that?

 

Yes you did.



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Posted February 24 2020 - 09:16 PM

Go to Calverton. All you need is a handgun and a pulse...



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Posted February 25 2020 - 09:03 AM

sshhhhhh


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Posted February 25 2020 - 12:48 PM

I have a NYS permit and CT permit and I have seen people shooting oter peoples guns in CT but never NY.

 

Can you recommend any good outdoor ranges in CT? I have a CT CCW also



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Posted February 25 2020 - 01:45 PM

The only one I know is in/near Danbury called Wooster Mountain. VERY nice people and range staff. Like any range just follow the rules and youre golden. For 20.00 if its not croweded you can shoot a long time. Its only 75 yards but its outdoors, casual and quite. If you go during the week check the website for days you can shoot. www.woostermountain.com . I go alot during the week when i get out early from work and many times I am solo there just the R.O. and me.


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Posted February 25 2020 - 03:35 PM

Go to Guns for Hire in NJ.Your friend can rent a handgun, just needs a drivers license.
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Posted February 25 2020 - 04:18 PM

IIRC, at the Nassau County Rifle & Pistol Range they prohibit the practice of one licensed handgun shooter from firing a handgun owned by another licensed handgun shooter even while both are shooting together.
 
The policy probably isn't supported by any law but I'm sure I saw it posted in their rules. How ridiculous is that?


It is posted, and they do enforce it. Saw it happen to a married couple last week. Both licensed, each at their own shooting point.
They swapped guns, and in came a range officer to give em hell. The guy claimed NCPD headquarters told them it was ok to do.
Range officer said, it doesnt mean crap. We said no and no it is.

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Posted February 25 2020 - 04:42 PM

Apparently, even if a couple, each with permits, wants to share a pistol by having it registered on each of their permit cards, NCPD won't allow it to be done. So they each have to buy their own pistol (another addt'l expense on top of $280 per permit) or go to Mineola each time and pay $10 to move it from one card to another just so the other half can shoot it. This is "common sense" gun safety (ahem people control)...So ridiculous!!!

 

I think other counties upstate do allow couples and family members to share a pistol on their cards. 

 

It is posted, and they do enforce it. Saw it happen to a married couple last week. Both licensed, each at their own shooting point.
They swapped guns, and in came a range officer to give em hell. The guy claimed NCPD headquarters told them it was ok to do.
Range officer said, it doesnt mean crap. We said no and no it is.






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