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#1 Gary_Hungerford

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Posted February 18 2020 - 07:30 AM

It's unfortunate what's happening and what has happened, to the scouting movement, countrywide.

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By Tom Hals
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    WILMINGTON, Del. (Reuters) - The Boy Scouts of America said on Tuesday it had filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy amid a flood of lawsuits over allegations of child sexual abuse stretching back decades.
    The bankruptcy is not expected to affect the organization's programs, which promote self-reliance through outdoor activities such as hiking and camping. The group was already struggling with declining membership and controversy over admitting gay and female members.
    The Boy Scouts, based in Irving, Texas, has said that it sincerely apologizes to anyone harmed, that it believes the accusers and that it encourages victims to come forward.
    Founded in 1910, the organization has been overwhelmed by hundreds of claims after several states, including New York, removed legal hurdles that had barred people from suing over old allegations of child sex abuse.
    The changes to the law coincided with the #MeToo movement and a shift in public opinion that has been more supportive of accusers. The result has been a wave of lawsuits against church leaders, doctors and schools, as well as scouting.
    The Boy Scouts has said in a statement that "we can live up to our social and moral responsibility to fairly compensate victims" while "also ensuring that we carry out our mission to serve youth, families and local communities through our programs."
    Paul Mones, who represents hundreds of men who claim they were abused as scouts, told Reuters: "The bankruptcy is being filed as a result of decades of concealing abuse by the Boy Scouts and their adult leaders."
    The bankruptcy, filed in Delaware, will allow the Boy Scouts to bring all of the lawsuits into one court and try to negotiate a settlement, rather than using the organization's funds to fight each case in court, which might leave some victims with nothing.
    A similar bankruptcy strategy to resolve sex abuse lawsuits has been used by more than 20 Catholic dioceses and USA Gymnastics.
    It could, however, be challenging to determine the value of the Boy Scouts' assets. The national organization said in its most recent annual report from 2018 that it had $1.5 billion. But hundreds of local councils have their own assets, and victims may try to make those available for settling claims.
    Membership in the organization's Cub Scouts and Boy Scouts fell 13% at the end of 2018 from the end of 2012, according to its annual report.
    The Boy Scouts lost a major source of support when the Mormon church said it would no longer sponsor scouting troops, beginning in 2020. The move by the Utah-based Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints came shortly after the Boy Scouts said it would drop "boy" from its program for older youths and after saying it would admit transgender scouts.
    The church said its decision was not influenced by the Boy Scouts' changes, but by a desire to focus on its own youth programs.


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Posted February 18 2020 - 01:05 PM

Sure.  Lets allow the left to kill off whatever is left of traditional values and enriching programs left in America,  

There's always LBQTA clubs to join at school.  

By the way, Little League Baseball...your next in the sights of the 1 800 LAWYERS.   



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Posted February 18 2020 - 01:09 PM

Beware the ides of March Catholic Church.



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Posted February 18 2020 - 02:02 PM

Meanwhile it’s a known fact that most pedophile cases are school teachers. But no one goes after the schools!
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Posted February 18 2020 - 02:25 PM

Meanwhile it’s a known fact that most pedophile cases are school teachers. But no one goes after the schools!

 

Because they are run by liberals. 


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Posted February 19 2020 - 01:43 PM

I thought it was the catholic church ??!!



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Posted February 19 2020 - 02:42 PM

The destruction of the BSA from the inside and outside by the Gay Mafia is on schedule.


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Posted February 19 2020 - 02:54 PM

The left seeks to destroy any and all traditional values and institutions. 


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Posted February 19 2020 - 02:57 PM

The "girls" athletic programs are being destroyed as we speak. The "transgender" movement has stolen all the medals, trophies, records etc from real girls and young women. This society is falling apart in record time.
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Posted February 19 2020 - 04:10 PM

The "girls" athletic programs are being destroyed as we speak. The "transgender" movement has stolen all the medals, trophies, records etc from real girls and young women. This society is falling apart in record time.

anything tyhey can do to dissuade young people from doing things that foster character development. All in the plan


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Posted March 25 2020 - 05:12 PM

The organization formally known as the Boy Scouts of America filed for bankruptcy because they failed to protect children from known predators.  It is not the fault of the liberal media, etc.  Rather, it is the fault of the BSA. 



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Posted March 25 2020 - 05:57 PM

The organization formally known as the Boy Scouts of America filed for bankruptcy because they failed to protect children from known predators.  It is not the fault of the liberal media, etc.  Rather, it is the fault of the BSA. 

 

OddJob1776 ... let me get this straight .... you belong to this forum and your first 3 posts and only posts you ever made trash the Boy Scouts of America. None of the posts in this thread mentioned one word about the liberal media being responsible for the bankruptcy filing of the Boy Scouts of America. 

 

I come from a family with 8 decades of involvement in the Boy Scouts of America and a few Eagle Scouts along the way. My father was a Boy Scout as a kid in Woodside NY. Me personally, I first joined the Boy Scouts of America back in 1964, long before you were born and I am still involved today. My son has been involved with the Boys Scouts of America for 22 years, an Eagle Scout and worked for them for 10 years, working his way up to a professional level. My daughter belonged to a Venture Crew when she was of age. 

 

Many members of this forum have been involved with the Boy Scouts of America, as youth and now fully support them in adult leadership positions to keep the program moving in a positive direction for the youth membership.

 

You obviously do not know the structure of the Boys Scouts of America, it's national council, it's local councils, it's chartering organizations or the individual Packs, Troops, Posts and Crews that make up the entire organization. How they are all separate legal entities and how each of these segments of the Boy Scouts of America are affected by the filing. 

 

Maybe you should find a different online forum if you want to trash one of the greatest youth programs this country has ever seen. If you were a victim, seek

professional psychological help. 


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Posted March 26 2020 - 04:33 PM

I am well aware of the structure and function of the BSA as much, if not more that you.

 

Are you aware the BSA intends to either blame or leave its chartering organizations to fend for themselves?

 

As you must be aware, BSA chartering organizing such as churches, VFW's, PALs, fire departments, Kiwanis, Chambers of Commerce, PTA's, etc. had absolutely nothing to do with the daily (or other) functioning of the BSA.  However, BSA National and local Councils, etc. intend to blame/cross-claim against the chartering organizations for conduct they were unaware of and had no control of.

 

Which council are were you affiliated with and during what time period?



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Posted April 04 2020 - 09:39 AM

I am well aware of the structure and function of the BSA as much, if not more that you.

I seriously doubt that, in either his or my case

Are you aware the BSA intends to either blame or leave its chartering organizations to fend for themselves?

Really? Where did you get that gem?

As you must be aware, BSA chartering organizing such as churches, VFW's, PALs, fire departments, Kiwanis, Chambers of Commerce, PTA's, etc. had absolutely nothing to do with the daily (or other) functioning of the BSA.  However, BSA National and local Councils, etc. intend to blame/cross-claim against the chartering organizations for conduct they were unaware of and had no control of.

Horsecrap.Chartering Orgs are as involved as they want to be, some are very involved and some have to be reminded that they have a Unit when it is time to sign the Annual Charter Renewal Agreement. I have handled matters with Units and their Chartered Orgs, and have had people removed for abusive behavior, and have had matters referred to Law Enforcement.

 

Which council are were you affiliated with and during what time period?

Nassau County Council (Now Theodore Roosevelt Council) from the 550's on and off to two years ago, Suffolk County Council from the 90's until...now. How about you? Where does your all knowing opinion come from?

You sound a lot like Burger King, or whatever his name was....In another discussion somewhere else


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Posted April 04 2020 - 10:30 PM

You sound a lot like Burger King, or whatever his name was....In another discussion somewhere else

 

Yup.  Dude was obsessed with child molesting in general and BSA in particular. 

 

For the record, these lawsuits are over events mostly over 25 years ago.  Scouting has maintained strict rules regarding child protection, reporting and back-grounding of adult leadership for several decades now.

 

And it is indisputable that EVERY organization that deals with kids was taken advantage of by pedo's that used the good works of the organization to access kids.  This wasn't unique to BSA or the Church.  Little League, 4-H, public schools, youth band organizations, dojos, etc all had a problem with this issue.   


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Posted April 05 2020 - 05:35 AM

Yup.  Dude was obsessed with child molesting in general and BSA in particular. 

 

For the record, these lawsuits are over events mostly over 25 years ago.  Scouting has maintained strict rules regarding child protection, reporting and back-grounding of adult leadership for several decades now.

 

And it is indisputable that EVERY organization that deals with kids was taken advantage of by pedo's that used the good works of the organization to access kids.  This wasn't unique to BSA or the Church.  Little League, 4-H, public schools, youth band organizations, dojos, etc all had a problem with this issue.   

As Jack Webb (As Joe Friday) said in a Dragnet episode 50 some years ago when asked how a cop could be bad: "Because we draw from the Human Race" (Paraphrasing, because I last saw it 30 some years ago in a rerun). BSA's Youth Protection guidelines, training, and practices are some of the strictest out there. Has bad stuff happened? Yes it has, wherever there are children, those that prey upon them will try to have their way, and the constant updates to the rules and training reflect the changes needed to do the best to keep the kids safe, and the adults safe from unfounded accusations. I tell leaders: "Don't ever get in a situation that could be considered a violation. Even if you didn't do anything wrong, what would happen if someone said you did?" helps to keep them thinking and out of those situations.


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Posted April 05 2020 - 06:45 AM

It's unfortunate what's happening and what has happened, to the scouting movement, countrywide.

Gary

 

By Tom Hals
Reuters

    WILMINGTON, Del. (Reuters) - The Boy Scouts of America said on Tuesday it had filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy amid a flood of lawsuits over allegations of child sexual abuse stretching back decades.
    The bankruptcy is not expected to affect the organization's programs, which promote self-reliance through outdoor activities such as hiking and camping. The group was already struggling with declining membership and controversy over admitting gay and female members.
    The Boy Scouts, based in Irving, Texas, has said that it sincerely apologizes to anyone harmed, that it believes the accusers and that it encourages victims to come forward.
    Founded in 1910, the organization has been overwhelmed by hundreds of claims after several states, including New York, removed legal hurdles that had barred people from suing over old allegations of child sex abuse.
    The changes to the law coincided with the #MeToo movement and a shift in public opinion that has been more supportive of accusers. The result has been a wave of lawsuits against church leaders, doctors and schools, as well as scouting.
    The Boy Scouts has said in a statement that "we can live up to our social and moral responsibility to fairly compensate victims" while "also ensuring that we carry out our mission to serve youth, families and local communities through our programs."
    Paul Mones, who represents hundreds of men who claim they were abused as scouts, told Reuters: "The bankruptcy is being filed as a result of decades of concealing abuse by the Boy Scouts and their adult leaders."
    The bankruptcy, filed in Delaware, will allow the Boy Scouts to bring all of the lawsuits into one court and try to negotiate a settlement, rather than using the organization's funds to fight each case in court, which might leave some victims with nothing.
    A similar bankruptcy strategy to resolve sex abuse lawsuits has been used by more than 20 Catholic dioceses and USA Gymnastics.
    It could, however, be challenging to determine the value of the Boy Scouts' assets. The national organization said in its most recent annual report from 2018 that it had $1.5 billion. But hundreds of local councils have their own assets, and victims may try to make those available for settling claims.
    Membership in the organization's Cub Scouts and Boy Scouts fell 13% at the end of 2018 from the end of 2012, according to its annual report.
    The Boy Scouts lost a major source of support when the Mormon church said it would no longer sponsor scouting troops, beginning in 2020. The move by the Utah-based Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints came shortly after the Boy Scouts said it would drop "boy" from its program for older youths and after saying it would admit transgender scouts.
    The church said its decision was not influenced by the Boy Scouts' changes, but by a desire to focus on its own youth programs.

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Posted May 21 2020 - 08:36 PM

You sound a lot like Burger King, or whatever his name was....In another discussion somewhere else

 

OddJob1776, on 26 Mar 2020 - 5:33 PM, said:snapback.png

I am well aware of the structure and function of the BSA as much, if not more that you.

 

I seriously doubt that, in either his or my case

 

Are you aware the BSA intends to either blame or leave its chartering organizations to fend for themselves?

 

Really? Where did you get that gem?

 

As you must be aware, BSA chartering organizing such as churches, VFW's, PALs, fire departments, Kiwanis, Chambers of Commerce, PTA's, etc. had absolutely nothing to do with the daily (or other) functioning of the BSA.  However, BSA National and local Councils, etc. intend to blame/cross-claim against the chartering organizations for conduct they were unaware of and had no control of.

 

Horsecrap.Chartering Orgs are as involved as they want to be, some are very involved and some have to be reminded that they have a Unit when it is time to sign the Annual Charter Renewal Agreement. I have handled matters with Units and their Chartered Orgs, and have had people removed for abusive behavior, and have had matters referred to Law Enforcement.

 

Which council are were you affiliated with and during what time period?

 

Nassau County Council (Now Theodore Roosevelt Council) from the 550's on and off to two years ago, Suffolk County Council from the 90's until...now. How about you? Where does your all knowing opinion come from?

 

I have been affiliated with the Theodore Roosevelt Council in one way or another from the 70's until the present.  Who from the TRC can you vouch for?  I welcome your response because this is a debate you will certainly lose.

 

By any chance, were you ever affiliated with Troop 94 of Wading River?



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Posted May 23 2020 - 12:13 PM

 

OddJob1776, on 26 Mar 2020 - 5:33 PM, said:snapback.png

 

I have been affiliated with the Theodore Roosevelt Council in one way or another from the 70's until the present.  Who from the TRC can you vouch for?  I welcome your response because this is a debate you will certainly lose.

 

By any chance, were you ever affiliated with Troop 94 of Wading River?

 

Quite a few people, actually, and I'm not engaging anyone in an online forum with personal details . Not worried about "losing"

. No, I am not now nor have I ever been affiliated w/ Troop 94 in Wading River, but I am aware that they had major problems



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Posted May 23 2020 - 03:20 PM

Having been a sworn officer of the council, I can not and will not discuss anything I know about anyone. Having a "Debate" with someone I do not know on an open internet forum with this type of subject is most certainly something I would put in the "Not a good idea for anyone" column






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